China's Space Program News Thread


iantsai

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Maybe it is Swift Dragon because I can not find any Pinyin spelling that can possibly represent a Chinese word.

The rocket's 1st stage is 2.65 meter in diameter. The fairing is 3 meter. So you see the big head. The maximum SSO payload is 1.5 tonne which is big so the fairing has to be big.
2.65m is totally different from the CZ-series' 2.25/3.35/5 staging. It's a whole new design.
 

Temstar

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Woah, now that's some fancy flying. I wonder how much fuel there is left in that orbit module. IIRC when the mission was complete it had a huge amount of fuel left due to precision of orbital manouvers and so less need for correction as well as the sample capsule being underweight due to the sample being less dense than expected.
 

taxiya

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2.65m is totally different from the CZ-series' 2.25/3.35/5 staging. It's a whole new design.
Don't think the two can be related or compared. SD-3 is a solid rocket. All the CZ rockets (except 11) are liquid. CZ-11 is 2m in diameter also different from its liquid brothers.
 

taxiya

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Isn't it a bit strange that CASC with China Rocket and CASIC with ExPace compete in commercial space? It feels like these two have an unfair advantage compare to fully private companies and might have a depressing effect on that market?
China's purpose of having a market (in any sector) and its competition is not to facilitate creation/enriching private capitals, China does encourage private capitals to get in if they are able, but China has no interest in aiding them. Encouragement and tolerance are far from assisting. The bottom line is that China only did the "Socialist Market Economy" and "Primary Stage of Socialism" because State dominated economy of the Advanced Stage of Socialism was too advanced for China many decades ago, and still far from reach. But it is certainly getting closer and closer as state owned enterprises are getting more and more sophisticated and effective. There is no reason to cultivate the private sectors if they can not bring in any better value. But of course, China won't prevent them form trying because it is still a market system.

So, I don't anything strange. On the contrary, I don't think Chinese private space companies are going to play any major roles in the future. What I am seeing is that CASC and CASIC and their commercial outfits going out to the world market (not blocked by US) to compete. It is similar to China's HSR commercial push, all by SOEs. This is the real meaning of "commercial" that China (the state) means, not "private".
 

FairAndUnbiased

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China's purpose of having a market (in any sector) and its competition is not to facilitate creation/enriching private capitals, China does encourage private capitals to get in if they are able, but China has no interest in aiding them. Encouragement and tolerance are far from assisting. The bottom line is that China only did the "Socialist Market Economy" and "Primary Stage of Socialism" because State dominated economy of the Advanced Stage of Socialism was too advanced for China many decades ago, and still far from reach. But it is certainly getting closer and closer as state owned enterprises are getting more and more sophisticated and effective. There is no reason to cultivate the private sectors if they can not bring in any better value. But of course, China won't prevent them form trying because it is still a market system.

So, I don't anything strange. On the contrary, I don't think Chinese private space companies are going to play any major roles in the future. What I am seeing is that CASC and CASIC and their commercial outfits going out to the world market (not blocked by US) to compete. This is the real meaning of "commercial" that China (the state) means, not "private".
Exactly, commercial spaceflight = civilian spaceflight services as opposed to government/military/scientific payloads. Doesn't need to be for private profit.
 

Jono

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I am sorry for asking a naive question.
can SJ 21 tug a dead satellite and release the latter at a lower orbit to reenter and burn out in the atmosphere?
technical and safety problems? Cost issues??
so much space junk needed to be disposed of.
 

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