China's SCS Strategy Thread

tamsen_ikard

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so china still doesn't have total sea supriority/control over SCS and has to suffer provocations like this. Really need that 004 now...
Nothing is stopping China from sending their ski jump carrier all the way to CONUS with several oilers in tow. That will be a nice tit for tat.

Its easy for ships to just pay a visit and waste oil in peace time. The real test of power is wartime chances of survivability.

All US ships within the first island Chain will likely be identified and sunk within 24 hours of when hostilities begin.
 

Mearex

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Nothing is stopping China from sending their ski jump carrier all the way to CONUS with several oilers in tow. That will be a nice tit for tat.

Its easy for ships to just pay a visit and waste oil in peace time. The real test of power is wartime chances of survivability.

All US ships within the first island Chain will likely be identified and sunk within 24 hours of when hostilities begin.
but if the PLAN is strong to the point where they are maintaining a constant presence throughout the SCS doing drills or whatnot then no one would dare enter
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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China has to be careful. The US is well aware that the PLA is optimised for striking within the First Island Chain.

As for the SCS, given the utter failure of Chinese air defence equipment in the recent Venezuela operation, the PLA's fortified islands in the SCS are not so much bastions of strength as pockets of extreme vulnerability. China, as a land empire, is fixated on controlling territory, and will squander significant resources defending these isolated bits of artificial land in the SCS.

As for the atolls themselves, they are susceptible to attack given that their defenses, however impressive on paper, probably don't work nearly as well as advertised. Once their air defenses are eliminated, then it's a small matter to knock out their power generation and water supply. In a conflict, the USMC is all but certain to seize them and use them to deter Chinese naval forces in the SCS.
you will never be white
 

tamsen_ikard

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but if the PLAN is strong to the point where they are maintaining a constant presence throughout the SCS doing drills or whatnot then no one would dare enter
Not true, there is nothing PLA can do if US brings their entire navy and just moves them around in peace time. Its simply just sailing. No one believes PLA will start shooting just cause US Navy showed up. Even terrible navies like Germany and Canada send ships to the SCS. It has nothing to do with PLA strength. It is all about showing the flag during peace time.

Also if China builds a huge navy, they will just not keep them confined to the SCS doing constant drills. Its wasteful. They will send the navy to distant parts of the world. Recently China send ships to Australia. Next they will send to the Middle-East and Eventually to Latin America. Again, just cause they are sailing these ships to distant places, that doesn't mean they will start fighting wars there.
 

manqiangrexue

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China has to be careful. The US is well aware that the PLA is optimised for striking within the First Island Chain.
The US has to be more careful. China has tailored its military to defeat the US in Asia.
As for the SCS, given the utter failure of Chinese air defence equipment in the recent Venezuela operation, the PLA's fortified islands in the SCS are not so much bastions of strength as pockets of extreme vulnerability. China, as a land empire, is fixated on controlling territory, and will squander significant resources defending these isolated bits of artificial land in the SCS.

As for the atolls themselves, they are susceptible to attack given that their defenses, however impressive on paper, probably don't work nearly as well as advertised. Once their air defenses are eliminated, then it's a small matter to knock out their power generation and water supply. In a conflict, the USMC is all but certain to seize them and use them to deter Chinese naval forces in the SCS.
Your entire rant relies on your first line. The Chinese radars were: 1. 20 years old 2. not turned on 3. not in an integrated detection and kill chain like Pakistan had made 4. badly outnumbered. None of these applies to China's force in Asia and the US military knows that or they wouldn't be panick-committing to a $1.5 trillion military budget next year. Given these facts, the rest of your junk falls apart.
 

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China has to be careful. The US is well aware that the PLA is optimised for striking within the First Island Chain.

As for the SCS, given the utter failure of Chinese air defence equipment in the recent Venezuela operation, the PLA's fortified islands in the SCS are not so much bastions of strength as pockets of extreme vulnerability. China, as a land empire, is fixated on controlling territory, and will squander significant resources defending these isolated bits of artificial land in the SCS.

As for the atolls themselves, they are susceptible to attack given that their defenses, however impressive on paper, probably don't work nearly as well as advertised. Once their air defenses are eliminated, then it's a small matter to knock out their power generation and water supply. In a conflict, the USMC is all but certain to seize them and use them to deter Chinese naval forces in the SCS.
Your back after your 2 months break or you were lurking all that time after getting dunked on the last time you ran with your tail between your legs and you came back with the same bs you have to be a troll nobody is falling for it lol @mods ban this most obviously cia wanna be white so bad troll
 
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manqiangrexue

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Huh? What happened? You came here not knowing shit again? Confused? LMFAO
They had the J-27A. Newer set.
No, mid-2000's. Maybe you need to not be ignorant when you talk. And even if it were new, you cannot buy 3 of them, no support, no network and expect them to defend you.
As for Pakistan/India, the Indian air force was able to do some serious damage against Pakistani bases towards the end of the skirmish, neutralising Chinese air defense gear.
Pakistan could afford far less interceptors than they needed and far less fighters than the IAF, but the ground missile game fought to a near draw with both sides striking each others' bases while it was a complete wash in the air by the PAF. And they did this with Chinese gear and a far far smaller budget than India could muster for its military spending on Western weapons.
Chinese gear looks cool on paper and at Zhuhai, but it's all propaganda. China's bark is far worse than its bite.
You have China mixed up with the West. The Rafales sold to India were several times more expensive than the J-10C that killed them or the JF-17 that jammed them. American missile interceptors in Israel got the country lit on fire begging for external aid despite hitting Iran with everything they had plus sabotage. F-35 pilots were so badly shaken when they went to joust with China's J-15 in the South China Sea that they actually lost a jet skidding off the carrier runway on return. Western systems are expensive and ineffective unless they have an overwhelming numbers and logistics advantage like USA vs Iraq or Venezuela.

Some good reading for you on the quality and maintenance of American weapons:
 
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another505

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You can actually see how shit and propaganda Western media can be about anything Chinese. They followed some twitter saying it is JY-27A when in fact it is the JY-27 base model from 2000s. There's no fact check or anything. Spread everywhere to even widely regarded "reputable" media. It is a mixture of clickbait headlines, USAID or whatever the current propaganda arm is, incompetence and/or straight up laziness to verify.
 
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