China's SCS Strategy Thread

PhSt

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Cgtn video abt the PH vessel Sierra Madre

Thanks for sharing, it seems the comment section has been flooded by Pinoy trolls. PH is notorious for its troll farms for hire, i won't be surprised if NATO bought their services to spread misinformation and propaganda against China both in PH and in foreign cyberspace.
 

GulfLander

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‘The reality is, PH can’t match China’s air force’
In a press briefing at Villamor Air Base, Cordura said the planned acquisition of multi-role fighters (MRFs) and other assets will just make China think twice before intruding into the Philippine airspace.

“If we are comparing ourselves to the threat in the region, let’s say China, we cannot be at par with China even 10 to 20 years from now,” said Cordura.
China has around 3,000 fighter aircraft at present, including the J series jets.

On the other hand, the Philippines has only 11 FA-50 fighter jets but efforts are underway to acquire more to defend the country’s airspace.

The defense department recently signed a $700 million contract with Korea Aerospace Industry for the delivery of 12 upgraded FA-50s.

The defense and military establishment are also in the process of acquiring more advanced MRFs.

“That’s the reality here,” said Cordura in comparing the PAF’s capability with the Chinese air force.

Nevertheless, Cordura said the Air Force is aiming to achieve a “credible deterrence” posture.

“They will think twice if you have GBADS (ground-based air defense system), if you have shooters, if you have multi-role fighters,” said Cordura.

“Imagine if we have multi-role fighters that can do what others can do, what their platform can also do and even better. That is the rationale behind the importance of our multi-role platform,” said Cordura.
Cordura said Japan’s Mitsubishi fighters are being considered for procurement under the MRF acquisition program.

Officials have earlier mentioned that the US F-16 and Sweden’s Saab JAS 39 are being considered for procurement under the project.

“Mitsubishi fighters, the Japanese-made multi-role, are also very potent platforms,” said Cordura.
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4Tran

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A country which thinks that a purchase of Mitsubishi F-2s in TYOOL 2025 is a good idea is not in good shape. This plane hasn't been in production for over a decade so spare parts and maintenance costs are going to be sky-high. And all they'd get in return is a very expensive F-16 that's horrifically outclassed by the J-10. Even worse, the Philippines Air Force probably won't be facing off against J-10s - they'd be going up against J-15Ts and J-16s; the best 4.5 gen fighters in the world. I'm smelling a lot of corruption in this proposal.

And by the way, I doubt Philippines can afford the Gripen so it'll be either F-2 or F-16.
 

lcloo

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Unless Japan decided to give 50% discount on F-2 fighter jet, it will cost more than F-35. The best the Philippines can afford are second hand F-16.

While the FA-50 Block 70 is expected to cost around USD $45 million per unit, the Mitsubishi F-2 is projected at approximately USD $120 million per aircraft — a cost differential that reflects its much broader mission set, high-performance sensors, and battle-proven survivability in high-threat environments.
 

CMP

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battle-proven survivability in high-threat environments.
I'm going to have to call total BS on this. Any claims of battle-proven survivability in high-threat environments first requires being in battle.

Operational history​

On 7 February 2013, two
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fighters briefly entered Japanese airspace off
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near
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, flying south over the
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before turning back to the north.
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Four F-2 fighters were scrambled to visually confirm the Russian planes,
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warning them by radio to leave their airspace.
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A photo taken by a JASDF pilot of one of the two Su-27s was released by the Japan
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Russia denied the incursion, saying the jets were making routine flights near the
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On 22 August 2013, two Russian
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Bear-F maritime patrol aircraft entered Japanese airspace near the major southern island of Kyushu for less than two minutes. F-2 fighters were scrambled in response.
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You could argue since its design is based on the
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(a design dating back to 1988 and not relevant to surviving against even J10CE), that it can make such a claim, but the F-16C Block 40 hasn't been in any real high-threat environment either. 2nd or 3rd rate middle eastern countries and Kosovo don't count.
 
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