Yes that's what I dont understand about China's foreign policy. Use other into the mix as well.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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Bro who do you think the American will support? I think you and I know the answer with past experience as a cruel reminder.
Malaysia funded the muslin insurgency in Mindanao and also Abu Sayaf operates in Sabah. Like I said before Malaysia can easily be balkanized as it's an amalgamation of different state, so they rely more on the US as a guarantor as the British relinguished that obligation to the American.What's so difficult to understand? Its in China's national interest to claim SCS. Its also in Philippines' national interest to defend against it (+ other ASEAN claimant states), if that means involving the US, then so be it.
The contradiction is unsolvable unless a party decides to unilaterally back off or a compromise is reached or one of the parties becomes so strong that the other party decides to nope out
I mean how the USA uses the Europeans
The EU countries are US vassals, don't bother with them. The real action is happening in SCS
Since the situation 5-10 years ago where rival claimants had a presence and ability to make themselves seen in the area, China has advanced to a stage where its territory in SCS is effectively secured.
In order to keep these territories, some countries such as Indonesia and Philippines had to be alienated, but that is an always existing trade off.
As I see it, this was the best approach, because as these nations have proved over and over again, they have no sovereignty and are supporters of colonialism. Supporting loss of land in exchange for better ties with these nations will not work. The truth is that the more you abuse these countries, the more they like you.
China's ASEAN strategy should be to focus on Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam.
Without a Gorbachev style collapse in the US homeland, war is inevitable. In such case, China should draw US into suicidal overconfidence and use the war as an opportunity to massively expand in Asia. Those who like freedom can be freed, those who like colonialism can be colonized.
In order to keep these territories, some countries such as Indonesia and Philippines had to be alienated, but that is an always existing trade off.
As I see it, this was the best approach, because as these nations have proved over and over again, they have no sovereignty and are supporters of colonialism. Supporting loss of land in exchange for better ties with these nations will not work. The truth is that the more you abuse these countries, the more they like you.
China's ASEAN strategy should be to focus on Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam.
Without a Gorbachev style collapse in the US homeland, war is inevitable. In such case, China should draw US into suicidal overconfidence and use the war as an opportunity to massively expand in Asia. Those who like freedom can be freed, those who like colonialism can be colonized.
People need to calm down about the military implications of these phillipines bases. They really don't add much except putting more bases within easily strikable range of pla. The only loser here is phillipines because those bases are now obvious targets in early part of a Westpac conflict just to make sure they can't get used later.
But I also don't think china can just sit back and do nothing here. Otherwise, nobody will take their side over America in the region.
But I also don't think china can just sit back and do nothing here. Otherwise, nobody will take their side over America in the region.
The Filipinos would have factored in the re-dredging of that disputed islet when they chose to allow US basing; China's response should be that as well as some other mystery X-Factor to bring the pain. It's that fear of the unknown that prevents such treachery in the future.
And it's game theory as well; the Marcos gov. thought that they could get away with siding with the US and probably thought US basing and surveillance would prevent Chinese action- now it's up to Zhongnanhai to disabuse them of that notion. Either negotiate in good faith with Beijing, or get nothing.
Hard power and military success against America is the only thing that can succeed in convincing these American-white-loving Filipinos to see the seriousness of China and stop their delusions of grandeur. India and the Philippines have a lot things in common. They're full of shit and high on non-existent greatness.