China's SCS Strategy Thread


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Not sure if this is a positive or negative development in PH's dealings with China, I have a bad feeling that the US is starting to use its 5th column lemmings in the PH to attempt to sabotage relations and force the government to turn the country into an Asian Ukraine, there are rumors that the US will use the Philippines as a distraction from the impending PLA liberation of Taiwan. So basically the US will initiate a shooting war between the PH and China, the US plans to sacrifice the Philippines in an attempt to use Filipinos as a meat shield to protect Taiwan because the US deems Taiwanese semiconductor facilities as strategically important assets. I think its time for concerned Filipinos in the country to raise this issue with the Marcos administration before its too late!
 

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Not sure if this is a positive or negative development in PH's dealings with China, I have a bad feeling that the US is starting to use its 5th column lemmings in the PH to attempt to sabotage relations and force the government to turn the country into an Asian Ukraine, there are rumors that the US will use the Philippines as a distraction from the impending PLA liberation of Taiwan. So basically the US will initiate a shooting war between the PH and China, the US plans to sacrifice the Philippines in an attempt to use Filipinos as a meat shield to protect Taiwan because the US deems Taiwanese semiconductor facilities as strategically important assets. I think its time for concerned Filipinos in the country to raise this issue with the Marcos administration before its too late!
Basically the court decision is based on Philippine Constitution that majority meaning 60% should be owned by Filipinos. This decision will only reinforce the Chinese because the Philippine quarrel is not with them BUT with all claimants. Diluting the American narrative of China expansionism. :rolleyes:

The Oil MOU deal is 60/40 in favor of the Philippine and from my understanding China is hesitating until the Philippine sign a COC in the SCS in order to finalized the oil deal. In this way a legal framework is done and approve between both parties, I think here is where the US will focus their attention because a deal will nullify their FON operation BUT what are the incentives for the Philippines to follow the American diktat, we may get oil for cheap instead of other Claimant siphoning it and you have to follow an oligarch statement to know where the wind is blowing.:cool:

MVP: Marcos trip to China a ‘good’ opportunity​

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- The Philippine Star
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December 7, 2022 | 12:00am


MVP: Marcos trip to China a �good� opportunity

Manuel V. Pangilinan
STAR / File
MANILA, Philippines — Business titan Manuel V. Pangilinan sees President Marcos’ upcoming state visit to China as a good opportunity for both countries to discuss issues about oil and gas exploration in the West Philippine Sea.
“It’s a good time to talk about it because the President I think is scheduled to go to Beijing in January. It’s probably on the agenda, I don’t know, but they should talk about it,” Pangilinan said.
President Marcos has accepted Chinese President Xi Jinping’s invitation for him to go to China on a state visit in January.


Pangilinan chairs PXP Energy Corp., which holds interest in two petroleum exploration service contracts in the West Philippine Sea.
PXP Energy earlier expressed its readiness to resume activities in Service Contract (SC) 75 and SC 72 if allowed to do so. Pangilinan, however, said they would need a go signal from the government first.

“The assets are owned by the state. We’re merely concessionaires,” he said.
A previous force majeure imposed on SC 75 and SC 72 was lifted by the Department of Energy (DOE) on Oct. 16, 2020, allowing its contractors to resume exploration activities.
PXP and Forum Energy Ltd., however, received last April 6 a directive from the DOE to “put all on hold all exploration activities for SC 75 and SC 72 until such time that the Security, Justice and Peace Coordinating Cluster (SJPCC) has issued the necessary clearance to proceed.”
The SJPCC agreed that prior approval of the said cluster is required before any oil exploration activities in the West Philippine Sea are allowed.
PXP Energy and Forum suspended all activities in both SCs in compliance with the directive.
Last October, the DOE granted the declaration of force majeure for SC 75 and SC 72 effective April 6 this year.
A force majeure event excuses contractors from performing their respective obligations and allows extension of exploration period under the service contracts.
Listed PXP holds 50 percent interest in SC 75 located in Northwest Palawan.
Forum Energy, in which PXP holds a direct and indirect interest of 79.13 percent, has a 70 percent participating interest in SC 72 – also in Northwest Palawan – through its wholly owned subsidiary Forum. PXP has a total economic interest of 54.36 percent in SC 72.
 

Temstar

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Why send expensive TELs to the islands when there's nowhere for them to really drive to? Island based UVLS would surely be a better, cheaper and more useful option?

I recall last year there was a PLAN floatilla sailing up Sea of Japan with a ship with some unknown object stashed on the helicopter deck covered under a fabric blanket and people were speculating that it may be something like a Tor being trialled at sea. Back then all that fight over Snake Island was still fresh in everyone's mind.

Then in a video Shilao said putting a land AD on a moving ship isn't plug and play. Land based AD are often designed with the assumption that its elements will be stationary when it's looking for targets and launching missiles. If you put them on a moving naval ship it messes them up unless there's special provision for them to work this way.

One would think naval AD can still work when stationary, since ships have to be able to defend themselves at anchor too. Conversely this greater versatility might make them uneconomical if you intend to only use them on land in fixed emplacements.

Also even on a small island you would think having no set location and being able to relocate offers some advantage in survivability compared to completely fixed positions. You could also load them onto ships and relocate to different island to strengthen their defence in reaction to conditions.
 

TK3600

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that begs the question: democracy in a developing country, a Boon or Bane in terms of economic progress?
for long-term development, you need national unity, a visionary grand strategy, a coherent working policy, achievable goals, and strong stable leaders/governments who have the determination to push for success despite opposition, interference, and initial setbacks.
Does the Philippines, or any other "democratic" developing countries for that matter, possess all these favorable factors, and be strong enough to resist US pressure, derailment, and sabotage? The answer is most likely No, IMHO.
So I don't have high expectations that the visit of Mr. Marcos Junior to Beijing will bear significant achievements for both countries.
For one, the US will simply not allow Marcos to sign the DOC ( Declaration of Conducts on SCS ) with China during this visit, otherwise, as an outsider, the US Navy will lose its pretext or not have any anchorage to interfere in the affairs of SCS with impunity.
Democracy fails very consistently to bring a country stronger. Almost every ascending power past 300 years did it through centralisation instead. That is not to say democracy is worthless. It excels at maintaining status quo and prevents tyranny. However development is a very uncomfortable thing to do, it touch the lunch of many interest groups. Sometimes a tyrant just do it better than a nice democratic leader.
 

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