China's SCS Strategy Thread

[Bellum_Romanum]

I'm in Singapore now. Today while driving to Changi for sailing on the way to and back I noticed multiple Poseidons landing and taking off from Paya Lebar Airbase throughout the entire day.

What would the purpose be? Just SCS monitoring?

From the article:

A RAAF Boeing P-8A Poseidon Multi-Mission Aircraft has been flying what Defence calls “maritime surveillance” missions from Singapore since mid-October, with data from flight tracking websites suggesting these take place over the South China Sea.

Singapore’s Ministry of Defence told ADM that the RAAF is flying maritime surveillance missions from Singapore under the auspices of the Australia-Singapore Comprehensive Strategic Partnership (CSP), which it says allows both militaries access to each other’s bases.

In the coming years as China's economic and military strengths continues to grow, countries like Singapore and any other countries close to China must be forced to choose or at least allow the PLA some sort of operational access to these countries. I mean, just what the bleeping bleep is Australia (a country that's further than China) allow to have basing arrangements with countries like Singapore etc... If the intentions of these ASEAN countries is supposedly peace in their neck of the woods then allow China to have an equal footing with it's western rivals since everyone in this region knows full well the intentions and strategic objectives of the west. Otherwise, in my opinion they must be forced to choose if China's core issues will be constantly pushed and ignored. These ASEAN countries must realize that win win doesn't mean China must lose or be emancipated disproportionate to it's actual power and contributions to the world.

 

[Maikeru]

I have not heard anything about a break on all US sub operations. The seawolf crash initial findings were very quickly communicated to the entire US sub fleet, so that is another possible clue that this wasn’t some freak act of god event.

But what I keep coming back to is the potential fallout from this being the scrapping of the entire seawolf class, which is currently the USN’s most prized sub class.

Sure, loosing a third of the fleet would be a huge blow, but why scrap the remaining two perfectly good boats that are already bought and paid for? If anything, loosing a boat would improve their spares available and crew rotation as parts and crew from the Connecticut can be scavenged for the remaining two.

I cannot help but wonder if the accident might not have also compromised the Connecticut’s acoustic signature to the PLAN as it limped back to Guam after the collision, which may have seriously undermined the USN’s faith in the ability of the remaining seawolf boats to continue to run the kinds of operations they were likely used for and prized for.

The USN certainly seems to have lost its mojo in recent years, what with 2 x DDG51 collisions, losing BHR to an entirely preventable fire, and now SSN22. From what I gather the current fleet is too small for its tasking and hugely overworked - which has bad effects on morale and retention. There's also the disasters of LCS and Zumwalt class.

I cannot believe they will scrap Seawolf and Jimmy Carter early though. JC has unique capabilities and Seawolf remains arguably the best SSN in the world. Even if the acoustic signature is compromised it will still be very quiet and a useful attack boat. As was said, Connecticut can be used to provide parts to keep the other 2 in service.

 

[PhSt]

there are US agents in the PH who are pushing the government to build artificial islands in the SCS, particularly in the Rén'ài Jiāo shoal.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

there are US agents in the PH who are pushing the government to build artificial islands in the SCS, particularly in the Rén'ài Jiāo shoal.

This Carpio guy is one of these American double agents that's working not for his country but for HIS MASTA'S COUNTRY that is the U.S. When the going gets tough (any military conflicts between the PLAN and Philippine Forces) this blob will be jetting his way and his family to the U.S. people like him are your typical anti-China bluster since he overestimates the U.S. military strength and it's commitment in the region but worst of all is the usual underestimation of China's resolved and steely determination to unleash hell if it's red line is broken.

 

[ansy1968]

there are US agents in the PH who are pushing the government to build artificial islands in the SCS, particularly in the Rén'ài Jiāo shoal.

@PhSt bro that man think highly of himself, thinking he can be a kingmaker, what a joke! His 1 SAMBAYAN coalition to form a viable opposition party presidential candidate is a failure. No prominent politician wanted to be associated with him, even Leni Robredo who will run on a different party instead of the Liberal Party, using Pink as a color of her campaign instead of Yellow. He wanted power so bad that he sold his soul to the devil (US), a former associated justice of the supreme court ( a vindictive person, he blame Duterte for not choosing him as Chief Justice) most of his decision are controversial with hint of corruption influencing his decision.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

@PhSt bro that man think highly of himself, thinking he can be a kingmaker, what a joke! His 1 SAMBAYAN coalition to form a viable opposition party presidential candidate is a failure. No prominent politician wanted to be associated with him, even Leni Robredo who will run on a different party instead of the Liberal Party, using Pink as a color of her campaign instead of Yellow. He wanted power so bad that he sold his soul to the devil (US), a former associated justice of the supreme court ( a vindictive person, he blame Duterte for not choosing him as Chief Justice) most of his decision are controversial with hint of corruption influencing his decision.

The dude thought that HE WAS OWED THE POSITION OF CHIEF JUSTICE LOL...That man was and is hungry for power and undue influence in the judiciary. Imagine if he was as you alluded to in your earlier comment granted the SCCJ position? This dude would have done immeasurable damage to the country’s justice system IMHO.

 

[davidau]

there are US agents in the PH who are pushing the government to build artificial islands in the SCS, particularly in the Rén'ài Jiāo shoal.

US agents all over the world!

 

[ansy1968]

The dude thought that HE WAS OWED THE POSITION OF CHIEF JUSTICE LOL...That man was and is hungry for power and undue influence in the judiciary. Imagine if he was as you alluded to in your earlier comment granted the SCCJ position? This dude would have done immeasurable damage to the country’s justice system IMHO.

@Bellum_Romanum bro he had a role in the persecution of his predecessor CJ Corona, thinking that the Aquino administration will be grateful and reward him the position, it didn't happen so he played politics in the judiciary during the length of Aquino term hoping for the promotion, instead it go to Ms Sereno and he plotted against her during Duterte term, such Machiavellian character is the reason why nobody trusted him, even in the business world and his oligarch patron know of his greed of power, fame and money.

 

[duskseeker]

there are US agents in the PH who are pushing the government to build artificial islands in the SCS, particularly in the Rén'ài Jiāo shoal.

Quite Idiotic to have joint USA patrols and have Malaysia and Vietnam come together to support the Philippines. So Vietnam and Malaysia's claims should be nullified? This is coming from a country that enjoyed or reaped the benefits of colonization and have never existed at all before that.

 

[ansy1968]

Quite Idiotic to have joint USA patrols and have Malaysia and Vietnam come together to support the Philippines. So Vietnam and Malaysia's claims should be nullified? This is coming from a country that enjoyed or reaped the benefits of colonization and have never existed at all before that.

@duskseeker bro we lost Scarborough shoal our traditional fishing ground because of his condescending advise (he is out of his depth in international law), the arbitration ruling which he so proudly proclaim a major win is in fact a Pyrrhic Victory in effect nullify our exclusive claim to the shoal. And we alone shoulder the whole cost, with country such as Vietnam, Malaysia , the US and Japan reaping the benefits.