China's SCS Strategy Thread

gelgoog

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Even if the US addressed its domestic issues, the US has limited scope for fast growth, because its economy is already at the technological frontier.

This has little impact on the long-term development of the Chinese economy, which is what will fund China's military spending.

Yes, the trade deficit is a result of US domestic policies and the role of the US dollar as the global reserve currency. And if it wasn't China exporting to the USA, then it would be other countries that would be exporting to the USA instead.

But I do think China can afford to conform or yield on some of the IP issues, because the level of Chinese R&D spending means it shouldn't be an issue for China to develop alternatives by itself.

A lot of the more labor intensive manufacturing has already been moving to Vietnam for years now. I mean, I remember buying shirts in the USA like a decade ago and they were already manufactured in Vietnam back then.

With regards to industrial espionage or not paying for IP the USA is hardly innocent in that matter. I still remember the GE vs Enercon wind turbine rumors. People often joke that the main job of the CIA and the French secret services is industrial espionage, not national defense. Also, according to US law IP protections do not apply to the US military. This was evidenced after the air force fiasco the USA experienced prior to entering WWI. Also known as the
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. The US Army Air Corps bought and operated French fighter aircraft regardless of US patents. The thing is, unlike what Trump says, most of the push for IP protection comes from the entertainment market not the productive sectors of the economy which are less and less important. Face it, if you wanted to clone memory chips, would you rather clone Micron (3rd major vendor), or Samsung (1st major vendor)? The US only retains a tiny lead in specific semiconductor markets and these keep shrinking in value as time passes.
 
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now noticed the tweet
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Haiyan, a Chinese underwater glider, has set a new endurance record after working for 141 days and sailing 3,619.6 km in the South China Sea, said the developer.

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Air Force Brat

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hi siege...

may I comment on this:eek:r it's FORBIDDEN TOPICS:
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/sd-forum-rules-of-behavior.t7851/#post-486470

thanks for letting me OK everybody know

ah Bub, I wouldn't get too worried about a fellow SDF member getting a little fired up... what can you expect when the Deputy Head of the Chinese Academy of Military Science is scooping shovels full of real Krap??

"tensions in the South China Sea could be resolved by sinking a pair of US Aircraft Carriers"

this a direct quote from Rear Admiral Lou Yuan

I mean really? no doubt this Jr. High mentality is being cultivated in China's Military Academies??,,, if any US Brass were to utter anything so patently stooped, he would be riffed from the service, and likely courts martialed, with a least a dishonorable and loss of any military retirement benefits...

Honestly anyone who is this ignorant of the opposing team, deserves to be "booted out" and disavowed by his own service, his military, and his Leadership! We'll see what President XI's response is, but its doubtful he will take any meaningful action..

but these kind of statements have consequences, and continue to chip away at the "good will" that China has spent the last quarter Century cultivating??

article by Bradford Betz....
 

gelgoog

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ah Bub, I wouldn't get too worried about a fellow SDF member getting a little fired up... what can you expect when the Deputy Head of the Chinese Academy of Military Science is scooping shovels full of real Krap??

"tensions in the South China Sea could be resolved by sinking a pair of US Aircraft Carriers"

this a direct quote from Rear Admiral Lou Yuan

I mean really? no doubt this Jr. High mentality is being cultivated in China's Military Academies??,,, if any US Brass were to utter anything so patently stooped, he would be riffed from the service, and likely courts martialed, with a least a dishonorable and loss of any military retirement benefits...
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This is hardly something new. I have heard similar comments made by Chinese top military officials even while they were visiting the USA. Like saying that in case the USA entered a conflict with China then they should expect California and the entire US Western seaboard to be put to nuclear fire. That was back when China only had a limited nuclear deterrent. Now that they have the DF-31 and DF-41 I can only guess at what they would say...

So in that regard the Rear Admiral's comments were actually, erm, moderate so to speak. In that he only mentioned a strike against US military forces that go into China's sphere of influence rather than to threaten a full blown nuclear strike on the US's main cities. Yes, the Chinese consider the Taiwanese issue to be that important to them.
 
ah Bub, I wouldn't get too worried about a fellow SDF member getting a little fired up...
Brother you misunderstood:
I wanted to know if I may discuss Taiwanese tactics here which is an interesting problem of 'how to defend indefensible' possibly involving 'hedgehog', 'reversed hedgehog', ...

but I can imagine people living in that region have hard feelings about an invasion, so it's better to skip this topic
 
here comes the NavyTimes story
‘We’ll see how frightened America is’ — Chinese admiral says sinking US carriers key to dominating South China Sea
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Another Beijing official has sounded off about the communist nation’s perceived dominance of the South China Sea region, this time coming as an alarming threat of inflicting mass casualties on the U.S. Navy.

During a Dec. 20 speech to the 2018 Military Industry List summit, China’s Rear Adm. Lou Yuan, the deputy head of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences, added fuel to the South China Sea fire when he stated the key for Chinese domination in those hotly contested waters could lie in the sinking of two U.S. aircraft carriers, according to a report by
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"What the United States fears the most is taking casualties,” the admiral said, before adding that such an attack on two of the U.S. Navy’s steel behemoths would claim upwards of 10,000 lives.

Lou went on to call America’s military, money, talent, voting system and fear of adversaries the five U.S. weaknesses that can be easily exploited, according to the report.

"We’ll see how frightened America is,” he said.

China’s ongoing insistence on expanding its territory into the
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has agitated neighboring nations and continuously challenged international law, an assertiveness the U.S. attempts to check through routine freedom of navigation operations, or
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"There are consequences that will continue to come home to roost, so to speak, with China if they don’t find a way to work more collaboratively with all of the nations who have interests,” former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said in November.

"International law allows us to operate here, allows us to fly here, allows us to train here, allows us to sail here, and that’s what we’re doing and we’re going to continue to do that,”
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, spokesman for the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, said last February.

The
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when it became the first U.S. carrier to visit a Vietnamese port in more than four decades, a port call that added even more tension to the already-strained U.S.-China relationship.

“The Chinese side made it clear to the United States that it should stop sending its vessels and military aircraft close to Chinese islands and reefs and stop actions that undermine Chinese authority and security interests,” Yang Jiechi, director of China’s Central Foreign Affairs Commission said in November.

Jiechi’s stance was dangerously emphasized last September when a Chinese warship
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with the American guided-missile destroyer Decatur in what the U.S. Navy called an “unsafe and unprofessional maneuver.”

“They were positioning in to close on our port side, were trying to push us out of the way," a Decatur sailor said in a
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China’s other primary point of contention with the U.S. has been its friendship with Taiwan, a self-ruled democratic island that Beijing
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Arms deals between the U.S. and Taiwan have drawn the China’s ire and when the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act floated the possibility of future visits by American warships to Taiwanese ports, Chinese officials responded by issuing threats, with one such warning coming from Adm. Lou.

“If the US naval fleet dares to stop in Taiwan, it is time for the People’s Liberation Army to deploy troops to promote national unity on (invade) the island,” he said. "Those who are trying to stir up trouble in the South China Sea and Taiwan should be careful about their future.”

Wang Hongguang, a retired lieutenant general of the People’s Liberation Army, emphasized Lou’s proclamations.

“The PLA is capable of taking over Taiwan within 100 hours with only a few dozen casualties,” he said in the report. “A possible military conflict may take place in Taiwan soon. (But) As long as the US doesn’t attack China-built islands and reefs in the South China Sea, no war will take place in the area.”

Frequent military drills directly over or adjacent to
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, meanwhile, have cut off access to the island’s dwindling list of partner nations and stirred concern among Taipei’s defense officials.

“The Chinese military’s strength continues to grow rapidly,” Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said in a late 2017 report obtained by
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. “There have been massive developments in military reforms, combined operations, weapons development and production, the building of overseas military bases and military exercises, and the military threat towards us grows daily.”

Ongoing invasion threats have been openly disputed by Taiwan’s mainland affairs minister, Chang Hsiao-Yueh, who issued a warning of her own last year.

“If they invade Taiwan militarily they will pay a very very high price," she said. "And so far I believe that’s the last resort if all the other means [of unification] are failed then finally they will do that.”
 

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Brother you misunderstood:
I wanted to know if I may discuss Taiwanese tactics here which is an interesting problem of 'how to defend indefensible' possibly involving 'hedgehog', 'reversed hedgehog', ...

but I can imagine people living in that region have hard feelings about an invasion, so it's better to skip this topic

So how should Taiwan prepare and defend against a Chinese invasion? with Chinese Rear Admirals, (surely he's NOT active duty), talking fondly of sinking a couple of American aircraft carriers? Yikes!, this takes dumb to a new level!
 
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