China's SCS Strategy Thread

AndrewS

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@Janiz

The die-hard warmongers of Imperial Japan actually backed up their press releases with millions of soldiers trying to conquer China over the decades, and also the rest of Asia.

A press release stating China's views on the SCS simply doesn't compare.

@A.Man

If the members of the Tribunal have exceeded their authority, then the correct action is for then to be censured or removed. No need for arrest warrants.
 

delft

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The correct action is to go to the Dutch court in The Hague. That court recently concluded that the Tribunal exceeded its authority in awarding $50b against Russia to the shareholders of the late Russian oil company Yukos. It will likely do the same in this case. According to the statutes of the Tribunal this Dutch court is the proper venue to decide such matters.
 

Equation

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Well, the case of the UK, the phrase used to be "the sun never sets on the British Empire"

That sun has been setting ALL this time since the end of WWI. Britain is almost at the crust of losing Scotland and perhaps even Northern Ireland one day, plus an increasing influx of immigrants (particularly from the Middle East) will no longer be the same Britannia as we know it. No God or King/Queen could save that from happening.o_O
 

AndrewS

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The Scotland situation is more like Quebec, as the question has been settled for at least a generation.

The demographics of Northern Ireland are pretty safe, so there's no need to worry there.

And yes, immigration is changing the UK, so it's looking more like the US.
 

Equation

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The Scotland situation is more like Quebec, as the question has been settled for at least a generation.

The demographics of Northern Ireland are pretty safe, so there's no need to worry there.

And yes, immigration is changing the UK, so it's looking more like the US.

Scotland can still vote for independence again.

Many Irish still wants Northern Ireland back to the Republic of Ireland, no matter what the Orange Marchers says.

British and the US will no longer be majority native born whites, therefore don't sit well with the old establishments. As a result tensions will rise and divide it further.
 

AndrewS

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Scotland is most like Quebec, so yes, they could vote again, but the question has been settled for a generation now.

Eire really doesn't care anymore about Northern Ireland, plus there is an inbuilt religious majority in Northern Ireland that will vote to stay in the UK. Plus seriously, Eire has just suffered one of the worst economic recessions in history, which wouldn't have happened if it was still part of the UK. The people in Northern Ireland know they would have suffered the same fate if they had left the UK.

The establishments in the UK and USA are pragmatic enough to absorb newcomers. Cases in point include a black President and a Muslim mayor for London on the political side.
 
For me it looks like a standpoint of die-hard warmongers from Imperial Japan during the 30's of last century. Not a PR game.

You must be referring to the country sending warships, bombers, and spy planes right up to other countries' borders, demanding that be accepted as normal, backed by threateningly forward deployed combat forces all over the world, with a long history of overthrowing governments and invading countries unilaterally or otherwise.
 

ahojunk

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May 31, 2016 @ 01:21 AM

Taiwan under a new political party will extend its Teflon stance on claims to almost the entire 3.5 million-square-kilometer South China Sea, despite bigger and more diplomatically connected rivals, and renew calls for joint use of resource-rich waters. That position explained Tuesday by the 11-day-old government of President Tsai Ing-wen will delight a so-far suspicious China but keep Southeast Asian countries on alert.

The government of President Tsai Ing-wen will stick to a 60-year-old claim over the ocean between its southwest coast and Singapore, a foreign ministry official said. Taiwan will also maintain a presence on a major islet under its control and promote maritime resource sharing among claimants, foreign ministry spokesperson Eleanor Wang said Tuesday.

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A member of Taiwan’s coast guard speaks as he guides visiting journalists on Taiping island in the Spratlys chain in the South China Sea on March 23, 2016. (SAM YEH/AFP/Getty Images)

An extension of the high-visibility maritime claim embraced by outgoing president Ma Ying-jeou means Taiwan will regularly remind the world, particularly aggressive fellow claimants Vietnam and the Philippines, that it owns the ocean. It will also keep functional control of coast guard-fortified Taiping Island, the sea’s largest natural land feature at 1,400 meters long, a nearby sandbar and the Dongsha archipelago closer to Taiwan proper. And Taiwanese officials will keep suggesting peaceful sharing of marine resources such as fisheries, oil and natural gas.

“These are the Republic of China’s historic lands and maritime territories,” Wang told a news briefing, using Taiwan’s legal name. “Under international law, this position is indisputable.”

Taiwan has used “all sorts of means recently” to show other countries its use of the embattled Taiping Island, she added. “In the future the government will go in this direction to promote (Taiping) as a peaceful and ecological islet,” Wang said. “In the future what we want to emphasize is peaceful, cooperative and mutual development. That is, maritime disputes should be set aside and peaceful means should be used to work together on development.”

The ex-president traveled himself to Taiping in January and earlier in his term suggested a peace initiative that involved sharing marine resources. His Nationalist Party developed the historical basis for the full ocean claim when it ruled all of China before a civil war that sent it fleeing to Taiwan in 1940s. Tsai is backed by the Nationalists’ chief rival, the Democratic Progressive Party.

Other claimants worry more about China than Taiwan. Beijing officials have angered them by using landfill to expand other natural islets by a cumulative 3,000 acres, per researcher estimates. It has also authorized oil drilling in contested areas and let fishing boats range as far as waters claimed by Indonesia. The historical basis for its claim to the whole ocean prompted the Philippines to file for U.N. arbitration, and a court is due to rule any time on that case.
 

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CCTV.com | 05-31-2016 06:24 BJT

BEIJING, May 30 (Xinhua) -- Issuing a series of harsh rhetoric lately against China's actions in the South China Sea, the U.S. military seems to be determined to turn itself into a destructive force against peace and development in the Asia Pacific.

During his speech at the U.S. Naval Academy on Friday, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter warned Beijing that it was on a path to erect a "Great Wall of self-isolation."

In reasserting the right to freedom of navigation in international waters, Caters said the United States will continue to "fly, sail and operate" where law allows it, adding the Pentagon's best weapons will be deployed to the Pacific region.

Also on Wednesday, Carter claimed that the U.S. military's efforts in the Asia-Pacific region against a rising China is akin to the 50-year Cold-War standoff with the Soviet Union. It's "going to be a long campaign of firmness, and gentle but strong pushback for probably quite a number of years," he added.

Advocating U.S.-China confrontation, such rhetoric is nothing but flagrant provocations against China's maritime security interests.

The tough talk is also very dangerous and irresponsible as it can only seriously undermine the foundation of peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region.

Though tensions have been escalating in the region over recent years and huge differences remain among claimants in the South China Sea dispute, no claimant state has actually threatened to resort to force to solve the issue, as it is the common wish of all countries in the region to safeguard peace in the South China Sea.

Although some Chinese islands in the region have been illegally occupied by others, Beijing has always insisted on settling the disputes through peaceful means, and has never made such remarks as "to deploy the best weapons to the region."

As a matter of fact, China hopes the South China Sea is a sea of peace, and it has kept its door for dialogue and negotiations open all the time.

Thanks to Beijing's exercise of restraint and concerted efforts of most countries in the region, the South China Sea situation has been generally peaceful. Despite the territorial rows between China and other claimants, freedom of navigation in the South China Sea has never been a problem.

Carter's remarks, however, will significantly stir up the tension in the South China Sea as they reveal publicly Washington's strategic intent to militarize the region and to contain a rising China.

They also thoroughly manifest a sitting U.S. senior official's Cold-War mentality against China and are considered by Chinese observers, particularly those in the military circle, to be widely representative of the U.S. strategy.

Though claiming the U.S. rebalancing to Asia is not targeted at Beijing, Washington has been busy building a "Great Wall" of containment and encirclement against China by gathering allies and instigating conflicts between China and other Asian countries.

In recent years, the United States has insisted on launching military operations across the South China Sea, with some senior U.S. officials making statements saying that such moves will be even more frequent in future.

Turning a deaf ear to China's call for keeping its promise not to take sides on the maritime disputes, the United States has since last October sent warships and military jets to deliberately violate China's territorial waters in the South China Sea.

Some Western media on Sunday even called the recent U.S. military moves in the South China Sea the "new normal" in spite of continuous opposition from China.

However, muscle-flexing and arbitrary intervention will neither shake China's resolve to safeguard its sovereignty and maritime rights nor alter the historical fact that China has sovereignty over the South China Sea islands and adjacent waters.

The already complex situation in the South China Sea requires sobriety and restraint, not military deterrence or sharp rebukes.

The United States needs to understand that a wrong-headed approach would eventually jeopardize regional stability and hurt the interests of all countries involved, and it will eventually lose support if it goes on trying to muddy the waters in the South China Sea.
 

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Publish Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:51:33 GMT

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The United States and its allies are exploiting the South China Sea dispute to increase their military presence and fuel unrest in the Asia Pacific region, a former American intelligence linguist says.

“There has been many disputes in the area and certainly foreign nations have taken advantage of the resources in the region when it comes to fishing, oil and gas exploration,” Scott Rickard told Press TV on Tuesday.

“China is not violating any international law and is absolutely setting up a deterrent, a forward [operating] base, in defense of their country because of the aggressive nature of not only the United States but other NATO allies that have controlled the international waters for over 500 years,” Rickard said.

The United States has dramatically increased its military maneuvers across the South China Sea over the past months, prompting angry protests from China and Russia who accuse Washington of fueling unrest in the Asia Pacific region.

Military activity has become the “new normal” in US-Pacific relations and is meant to counter efforts by Beijing and Moscow and show “military superiority” in the increasingly crowded and competitive region, ABC News said in a report on Tuesday.

“We're for freedom of navigation and following the rules, and to an extent we are pushing back against changing the rules,” said Derek Chollet, a former assistant defense secretary for international affairs.

The United States is concerned that China is extending its military reach in the South China Sea by developing man-made islands to accommodate military airfields and weapons systems.

American warships have deliberately sailed close to one of the land formations three times in the past seven months to test China’s territorial claims.

“The US is trying to claim that it is keeping the maritime waters free for transport and navigation. Needless to say that the small islands that the Chinese have built… are not interrupting any navigation whatsoever,” Rickard said.

US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter plans to visit the region next week for an annual Asian national security conference.

China claims nearly all of the South China Sea, despite partial counterclaims by Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines. China is also locked in disputes with Japan and South Korea over the East China Sea.

Across Southeast Asia, concerns about China and its growing military have created an opportunity for the US to improve relationships.

China has repeatedly criticized US military presence in the region and suspects the military drills are part of efforts to contain Beijing.
 
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