China's SCS Strategy Thread

[tamsen_ikard]

An innocent question: if the U.S. Coast Guard is patrolling the South China Sea from Singapore & Philippines, who's guarding the actual U.S. coast? Or has the definition of "coast" become global now?

Guarding against whom? No one dares to come even 5000 thousand miles from US coast. And Trump doesn't really need coast guard to detain smugglers. He literally blows up their boats using air to ground missiles.

US think China will chicken just with the sight of any US ship, including the coast guard. Now the question is, will China chicken out to avoid escalation with US or will they stabd the ground.

 

[kkwan18]

Guarding against whom? No one dares to come even 5000 thousand miles from US coast. And Trump doesn't really need coast guard to detain smugglers. He literally blows up their boats using air to ground missiles.

US think China will chicken just with the sight of any US ship, including the coast guard. Now the question is, will China chicken out to avoid escalation with US or will they stabd the ground.

They definitely will not chicken out.

 

[PiSigma]

An innocent question: if the U.S. Coast Guard is patrolling the South China Sea from Singapore & Philippines, who's guarding the actual U.S. coast? Or has the definition of "coast" become global now?

China need to secure it from bases in Cuba. /S

In all seriousness, the USCG have very limited presence in SCS so it's very much just showing the flag. All the china needs to do is swarm them with fishing boats with ccg as backup

 

[Kalum Pupeter]

US coast guard cutters are now operating from based in Singapore and the Philippines as a counter to CCG operations in the disputed scs areas. Potential escalation incoming?

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[plawolf]

China need to secure it from bases in Cuba. /S

In all seriousness, the USCG have very limited presence in SCS so it's very much just showing the flag. All the china needs to do is swarm them with fishing boats with ccg as backup

Not to mention the inconvenient fact that the USCG would have zero jurisdictional powers or real hard power ability to even do anything in the event of an incident other than maybe fish some Philippino survivors out of the drink afterwards.

Indeed, having them nearby would likely increase the likelihood of an incident if China wants to prove just how much they are paper tigers.

 

[Kalum Pupeter]

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Good. Very good. More, please. Much more.

 

[Black Wolf]

Guarding against whom? No one dares to come even 5000 thousand miles from US coast. And Trump doesn't really need coast guard to detain smugglers. He literally blows up their boats using air to ground missiles.

US think China will chicken just with the sight of any US ship, including the coast guard. Now the question is, will China chicken out to avoid escalation with US or will they stabd the ground.

Whether anyone would dare to operate near the U.S. coast is irrelevant.

The issue is the principle. If the Chinese Coast Guard began regularly patrolling off the U.S. coast under the banner of "freedom of navigation," would Washington accept it, or would it immediately be labeled a security threat?

 

[Black Wolf]

China need to secure it from bases in Cuba. /S

In all seriousness, the USCG have very limited presence in SCS so it's very much just showing the flag. All the china needs to do is swarm them with fishing boats with ccg as backup

That's precisely the point. If China decided to "show the flag" by deploying its Coast Guard from bases in Cuba or elsewhere in the Caribbean, would it be dismissed as harmless symbolism, or would Washington see it as a direct security concern?

The standard shouldn't change depending on who's doing it.

 

[UmbraPenumbra]

US coast guard cutters are now operating from based in Singapore and the Philippines as a counter to CCG operations in the disputed scs areas. Potential escalation incoming?

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Since most US navy ship is needed urgently elsewhere, this would temporarily suffice and silence those who think the US is only using the Philippines to poke at China. By the way, the current Phillipine government and military don't exactly possess the brave and courageous spirit of the revolutionary Katipuneros; so it really helps by a lot to embolden and to raise the morale of the troops and the public at large if dear Colonial Master's presence is seen and felt especially as we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the 2016 Arbitration ruling. It's not party when the US is not around!

 

[4Tran]

Since most US navy ship is needed urgently elsewhere, this would temporarily suffice and silence those who think the US is only using the Philippines to poke at China. By the way, the current Phillipine government and military don't exactly possess the brave and courageous spirit of the revolutionary Katipuneros; so it really helps by a lot to embolden and to raise the morale of the troops and the public at large if dear Colonial Master's presence is seen and felt especially as we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the 2016 Arbitration ruling. It's not party when the US is not around!

US Coast Guard vessels are unable to push around Chinese Coast Guard so it's a job that should have been left to proper USN warships. The fact that they have to use Coast Guard vessels so far from home is actually a sign of weakness.