China's SCS Strategy Thread

CMP

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I wonder if Elbridge Colby overextended himself. Sounded like he made a pretty unilateral decision on the Ukraine aid stoppage which Trump was not a fan of. Might result in his influence getting cut back.
He has backing from Vance, other officials, and Silicon Valley bros. He's just the face of this but he represents a deep state and private sector faction.
 

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tamsen_ikard

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I have been saying this for a long time, China's first shooting skirmish will be with Philippines, not Taiwan.

China will have to lob some actual bombs and missiles to teach Philippines a lesson.

A heavily colonized, Christianized philippines is basically a US outpost in China's backyard. They won't change their mindset without actual military defeats.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I have been saying this for a long time, China's first shooting skirmish will be with Philippines, not Taiwan.

China will have to lob some actual bombs and missiles to teach Philippines a lesson.

A heavily colonized, Christianized philippines is basically a US outpost in China's backyard. They won't change their mindset without actual military defeats.
Not to mention that an increasingly deranged and historically challenged population seemed to laud and brag about the "BATTLE OF YULTONG" as proof of their SUPERIORITY over the Chinese military power or lack thereof.

Go to any anti-China tangent from those folks and almost inevitably you'll come across the "battle of YULTONG" as their crutch and proof of their military prowess against the commies lol
 

Sardaukar20

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Not to mention that an increasingly deranged and historically challenged population seemed to laud and brag about the "BATTLE OF YULTONG" as proof of their SUPERIORITY over the Chinese military power or lack thereof.

Go to any anti-China tangent from those folks and almost inevitably you'll come across the "battle of YULTONG" as their crutch and proof of their military prowess against the commies lol
Yeah. They keep repeating this "Battle of Yultong" ad nauseam for the longest time already. I thought the Duterte years would have mellowed down the anti-Chinese nationalism already, but it appears to have returned to the same levels during the Aquino III years under Bongbong Marcos.

I have been saying this for a long time, China's first shooting skirmish will be with Philippines, not Taiwan.

China will have to lob some actual bombs and missiles to teach Philippines a lesson.

A heavily colonized, Christianized philippines is basically a US outpost in China's backyard. They won't change their mindset without actual military defeats.
Agreed. Taiwan has too much to lose to start a shoot out with mainland China, but the Philippines under Bongbong Marcos don't appear to have those same kinds of stakes. Unlike Vietnam and India, the PH have not actually not been punished by mainland China. But in 2013, the PH coastguard did shot and killed a Chinese Taiwanese fisherman.

From what I can observe at this stage, I feel that the PH this time is under direct control by the US. So they won't do anything stupid just yet until the US have setup their strategic pieces in place. The US plans to position US Marines along the islands along the Bashi channel, on top of both Taiwanese and Filipino islands. The war plan is for the USMC to position and fire SAM and AshM missiles along those islands at PLAN assets and then hide in those islands or hop off to another island. Northern PH is their logistical hub for this operation. We can debate the wisdom of such a strategy, but something is definitely cooking up in the PH. The PH intends to become a strategic threat to China with their Brahmos missiles and hosting of US Typhon missiles. So, its increasingly harder to dismiss their anti-China rhetoric as just noise.
 
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Sardaukar20

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The obvious counter to that strategy is air power.
Yes. Air superiority is important, however against the US, its gonna be challenging to contest for long term continuous air-superiority. The Batanes islands of the Philippines in the Bashi Channel is one area I suspect where USMC missile sites are gonna operate. It is some distance away from the Chinese coast. This is exactly what the US wants. To sit their Navy at the Western Pacific, some distance from the Chinese coast, back the Taiwanese separatists from behind and let them do most of the dying, while using Filipino islands as launch pads to launch missiles at Chinese ships and cities. They hope to be able the attrit the PLAN at the Bashi Channel before the Navy takes them on in the Western Pacific. That is the plan.

To counter this USMC "island launchpad" strategy, one thing I think China should do is to traditional area denial. Send barrages of ballistic and cruise missiles to pepper those islands with cluster munitions and small mines. First, that would catch some missile launchers out in the open. Second, those missile systems that were hidden would then have to contend with mines when coming out and moving around the islands to launch. Helicopters would also have a hard time landing on mine-infested islands.

If the PLAN can safely sneak submarines near the islands, they can also intercept US and Filipino Marine vessels moving between those islands too. But make sure to watch out for US subs and anti-submarine assets.
 

Nevermore

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Yes. Air superiority is important, however against the US, its gonna be challenging to contest for long term continuous air-superiority. The Batanes islands of the Philippines in the Bashi Channel is one area I suspect where USMC missile sites are gonna operate. It is some distance away from the Chinese coast. This is exactly what the US wants. To sit their Navy at the Western Pacific, some distance from the Chinese coast, back the Taiwanese separatists from behind and let them do most of the dying, while using Filipino islands as launch pads to launch missiles at Chinese ships and cities. They hope to be able the attrit the PLAN at the Bashi Channel before the Navy takes them on in the Western Pacific. That is the plan.

To counter this USMC "island launchpad" strategy, one thing I think China should do is to traditional area denial. Send barrages of ballistic and cruise missiles to pepper those islands with cluster munitions and small mines. First, that would catch some missile launchers out in the open. Second, those missile systems that were hidden would then have to contend with mines when coming out and moving around the islands to launch. Helicopters would also have a hard time landing on mine-infested islands.

If the PLAN can safely sneak submarines near the islands, they can also intercept US and Filipino Marine vessels moving between those islands too. But make sure to watch out for US subs and anti-submarine assets.
I have read an article before saying that the waters near China are all filled with American underwater detectors. I wonder if this situation of continuous surveillance has been resolved.
 
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