"China's Hidden Power" - Background Article on PLAAF

unknauthr

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It looks like "Combat Aircraft" has done a nice job with their latest feature article on the PLAAF:
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It's about time that the PLAAF was treated in a serious manner by the western aviation press.

To repeat some of the key elements from the article:

  • Historically the PLAAF was not awarded equal respect within the Chinese leadership, alongside the other branches of the PLA.

"Organizationally, the PLAAF is strictly subordinate to the Chinese ground forces in ways that no western air arm has ever had to contend with. Far from being on equal footing in the competition for resources or for strategic planning authority, the PLAAF has been obliged to play whatever secondary role that the Chinese armed forces see fit to relegate it under. Up until 1985, the chief air force officer wasn’t even an aviator: he was an army officer appointed to manage air force operations."​

  • This changed during the early 1990s, following the collapse of the Soviet Union (which provided the PLA with new sources of arms technology), and following the 1991 Gulf War, which altered Chinese military thinking with regard to the role of air power:

"The stunning display of US and allied air power during the 1991 Gulf War had come as a thunderous wake-up call to the Chinese armed forces. Here was an example of what a modern, integrated air force, equally capable of performing in the air-to-air and air-to-ground roles, was capable of doing to a less sophisticated opponent. . . . The myth of the massive ground army, capable of overcoming its opponents by sheer weight of numbers alone, had been shattered."​

  • The article also traces the evolution of the China's indigenous aircraft development capabilities, from the development of the Q-5, to the development of the J-8 and J-8 II, to the concept aircraft of the 1970s that paved the way for the eventual development of the J-10.

"But there was also an apparent gap in this initial round of Chinese procurement. Whereas the PLAAF was quick to purchase the massive, long-range Su-27 and Su-30 fighters, no attempts were made to purchase the smaller, less expensive MiG-29 aircraft, as part of a high-low fighter mix. . . . It would be some number of years, however, before it became apparent that the PLAAF had its own, alternative aircraft in mind as a complement to its Su-27 interceptors."​

I would have liked to have seen a few more (and larger) photographs. However, given the general lack of articles on this subject in the western press, this one is definitely worth having. Perhaps one of our members has access to a scanner . . .

The article appears to be the first part in a two-part series on the PLAAF. The second part is expected to focus on current developments, including the fielding of the J-10 fighter.
 

Deino

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Thanks ... I suggested this article in the J-10 tread too but forgot to post it !

Here it is:

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Cheers, Deino
 

Gollevainen

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Thanks Deino to provide that article and sorry that I haven't had time to look more closely to it untill now...


Anyway this was a good article and a good sum-up of the PLAAF in general and it's capabilities in past and present. To some this article may sound harsh and thus attempting to deny it and proclaim it as a western propaganda. But would be silly as the article is accurate and professional. It just reveals the facts of chinese aviation history and tough it may be harsh wake to reality, it really really is just that, a reality. Like the article stated, it gave a good basis where to compare the current and vast modernisation rate of PLAAF. I strongly suggest everyone to read it as it gives far more better wiev of PLAAF current capability than many other sources which tends to highlight the spearhead of the chinese aviation force.

But few things there was that pocked my eyes. It said J-9 had entered prototype stage but no other sources states so. In fact all other referenses that even mentions J-9, all says that it never entered the design board. But if this claim prooves to be right, I love to see any pictures of it...
 

Deino

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Gollevainen said:
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But few things there was that pocked my eyes. It said J-9 had entered prototype stage but no other sources states so. In fact all other referenses that even mentions J-9, all says that it never entered the design board. But if this claim prooves to be right, I love to see any pictures of it...


All what I found so far is: There was NEVER a flying prototype (if ever a non-flying) of the J-9.
But if You are interested in more about that topic please wait for an article in a future issue of AIR Enthusiast written by Tony Buttler !

Cheers, Deino :D
 

zyun8288

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Thanks! I'll have a good look tomorrow.

Actually, if the article did say J9 was at prototype stage, then the author does know something. In fact, if western observors do bother to read some chinese unclassified materials, that really should not be a news. It's just that to some people, any thing written in chinese is suspicious. But once it's in English, it's different.
 

Indianfighter

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Gollevainen said:
But few things there was that pocked my eyes. It said J-9 had entered prototype stage but no other sources states so. In fact all other referenses that even mentions J-9, all says that it never entered the design board. But if this claim prooves to be right, I love to see any pictures of it...
The FC-1 may be given the designation of J-9. The FC-1 has indeed entered the protoype stage (an advanced stage when the 4th prototype was tested recently).
 

renmin

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J-9 was the failed attempt to modify the J-8II. The fighter was planned to have the basic body of a J-8II upgraded with delta wings and canards. The project was a flunk though. It never came off the drawing boards.
Heres a CG image of how the J-9 could of looked like
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ahho

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renmin said:
J-9 was the failed attempt to modify the J-8II. The fighter was planned to have the basic body of a J-8II upgraded with delta wings and canards. The project was a flunk though. It never came off the drawing boards.
Heres a CG image of how the J-9 could of looked like
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just to let you nknow that the image is not displaying due to the tag used
 

tphuang

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Gollevainen said:
Thanks Deino to provide that article and sorry that I haven't had time to look more closely to it untill now...


Anyway this was a good article and a good sum-up of the PLAAF in general and it's capabilities in past and present. To some this article may sound harsh and thus attempting to deny it and proclaim it as a western propaganda. But would be silly as the article is accurate and professional. It just reveals the facts of chinese aviation history and tough it may be harsh wake to reality, it really really is just that, a reality. Like the article stated, it gave a good basis where to compare the current and vast modernisation rate of PLAAF. I strongly suggest everyone to read it as it gives far more better wiev of PLAAF current capability than many other sources which tends to highlight the spearhead of the chinese aviation force.

But few things there was that pocked my eyes. It said J-9 had entered prototype stage but no other sources states so. In fact all other referenses that even mentions J-9, all says that it never entered the design board. But if this claim prooves to be right, I love to see any pictures of it...

Also To Deino,

yeah, I actually really enjoyed reading through this article. One cannot underestimate the impact that J-9 had on J-10. Especially on the development of canards and the high speed flight performance of J-10, J-9's development really did help a lot.

Most of the stuff it said was true. I don't really think J-8 reached the standards of plaaf until it had the capability to shoot MRAAM.

As for JH-7, the reason that it got relegated to PLANAF in the first place was because its development was paid for by the navy and its performance simply could not match plaaf standard. I'm sure after the success of PGMs in kosovo, pla really woke up to the importance of precision strike, that's why you saw the improved JH-7A for plaaf.

Also for JF-17, much of its description are based on pre-04 specs.
 
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