China Travel

supersnoop said:

The TTC subway has always been terrible, like it was engineered for the laziest possible people.
You have something like the Queen and Dundas station downtown and the distance is maybe 500m. It's not even getting close to a cruising speed before stopping. Why?

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Speaking of the TTC, it reminds me of this subway comparison map I downloaded a few weeks ago:


Notice how line 3 (blue line on the right) for Toronto actually closed between 2010 and 2024, this happened after a train derailed and they decided to permanently shut down the line. The replacement is meant to be an extension of line 2, but this isn't slated to be finished until 2030.

I also travelled on the Chengdu metro last October and it's miles better than the experience riding the subway in Toronto. All the metros in China do the bare minimum of installing screen doors so that people can't fall on the tracks and force the subway line to close for hours (last time I went on the subway in Toronto this happened)

PiSigma said:

I'm from Calgary. I hate the Leafs with a passion. And all chinese cities are better than Toronto. Actually very few cities even in US are worse than toronto

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Typical reaction from the Texas of Canada!! For the record, I despise the Leafs as well. At least you and I have something in common besides being certified Wumaos lol

supersnoop said:

How can the Tim Horton's be better? Like it's not like complete gutter trash?
The TTC subway has always been terrible, like it was engineered for the laziest possible people.
You have something like the Queen and Dundas station downtown and the distance is maybe 500m. It's not even getting close to a cruising speed before stopping. Why?

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Because it's the TTC way eh!! Lol

fishrubber99 said:

Speaking of the TTC, it reminds me of this subway comparison map I downloaded a few weeks ago:

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Notice how line 3 (blue line on the right) for Toronto actually closed between 2010 and 2024, this happened after a train derailed and they decided to permanently shut down the line. The replacement is meant to be an extension of line 2, but this isn't slated to be finished until 2030.

I also travelled on the Chengdu metro last October and it's miles better than the experience riding the subway in Toronto. All the metros in China do the bare minimum of installing screen doors so that people can't fall on the tracks and force the subway line to close for hours (last time I went on the subway in Toronto this happened)

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The Eglington line was supposed to be a subway line. Rob Ford (may he rest in peace) tried, but the city council overturned his decision.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Because it's the TTC way eh!! Lol

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Worthless ass TTC

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• Two different electrical system/Voltage for LRT and streetcars, because fuck you we like paying electricians.
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I'm not even mentioning the army of mental cases, drunks and other degens on the buses.

fishrubber99 said:

All the metros in China do the bare minimum of installing screen doors so that people can't fall on the tracks

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I am not aware of any subway in North America or Europe that has those screens either.

China's subway systems are truly impressive when you consider how fast they have been built out. Check out the full list of cities that have subways:

It is just mind-boggling! China, Japan and South Korea - those are the world leaders for urban rail. China has everyone beat for length, Japan for puctuality, cleanliness and interconnectedness with other longer range rail networks, and South Korea for its bleeding-edge tech.

Consider this though: in 2009, only 10 Chinese cities had metro systems at all, but by 2019 that number advanced to 37 cities, and today Baidu lists 56 cities with developed subways. My one concern is how many corners may have been cut to build out so fast. But even if half were tofu-dreg projects (which I do not think they are), it is still eye-watering.

subotai1 said:

I am not aware of any subway in North America or Europe that has those screens either.

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It's mainly the newer stations in Europe that have them installed

jnd85 said:

My one concern is how many corners may have been cut to build out so fast. But even if half were tofu-dreg projects (which I do not think they are), it is still eye-watering.

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The large number of subway systems in China have maintained excellent safety records over the years. The rapid construction of China's subways is not due to cutting corners, but rather to its strong infrastructure capabilities.

Honestly my travel to Xi an really opened my eyes and got me to rethink about the narrative of the Cultural Revolution. The narrative about Mao wanting to eliminate ancient Chinese cultural in my opinion is complete bullshit because I visited the Beilin Museum and Yellow Emperor Mausoleum and these sites aswell as others in Xi'an were never (Except for the Temple near the Masoleum) targeted for destruction during the cultural revolution because they're on the list called National Priority Protected Site (Est in 1961) meaning Mao actually cared about Chinese culture but he did what literally every dynasty does which is to destroy the old and replace it with new.