China obtain liscense to produce backfire bomber

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Or maybe a blogger has read something genuine, put two and two together and made five.

It would be worthwhile scouring for news of any Chinese Govt or SEO Joint Venture Investment with Tupolev. The ideal of China spending this amount of money to fund the development of a new aircraft would make far more sense and be in tune with the nature of deepening security ties between the countries over the last decade.

Putin in is town for the next few days, so the timing of such news is at least plausible.
 
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SampanViking said:
Or maybe a blogger has read something genuine, put two and two together and made five.

It would be worthwhile scouring for news of any Chinese Govt or SEO Joint Venture Investment with Tupolev. The ideal of China spending this amount of money to fund the development of a new aircraft would make far more sense and be in tune with the nature of deepening security ties between the countries over the last decade.

Putin in is town for the next few days, so the timing of such news is at least plausible.
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at $1.2 bilion, I think is cheap,attempt to develop entire new bomber from the ground up ,not to mention production cost for each aircraft will far to expensive.
 
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It is however the kind of sum you would see being paid as the first tranche of a phased investment plan for a project of such size.

Of course pure speculation on my part, but it simply sounds more likely, assuming that the whole thing is not simply a crock a do do!
 
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at $1.2 bilion, I think is cheap,attempt to develop entire new bomber from the ground up ,not to mention production cost for each aircraft will far to expensive.
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dude, just stop this nonsense. There is clearly nothing in this news. Hundreds of speculations like this appear on Chinese bbs everyday. If this had any validity, we would've seen Russian side claiming this by now.
 
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How do the B-1B and B-52 survive enemy fighters with radar cross sections as big as they are? They don't face them. They come in after all the enemy fighters and long range SAM sites have been destroyed, if they ever had them. China could use the Tu-22M the same way, holding it back until the opposing air defenses were destroyed, then using to drop a ton of bombs. Or it could drop dozens of stand-off weapons.
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according to the old issue aviation week< B-1B incorporate RAM coating and radar cancellation reducing her over all RCS to less than 1 meter,some claim the size of of the basketball
 
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according to the old issue aviation week< B-1B incorporate RAM coating and radar cancellation reducing her over all RCS to less than 1 meter,some claim the size of of the basketball
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Richard that's just crap. Even the F-22's level of technology may or may not be able to achieve radar cancellation, and you're trying to tell us that the decades' old B-1B has this technology. You need to stop smoking the funny stuff.
 
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Richard that's just crap. Even the F-22's level of technology may or may not be able to achieve radar cancellation, and you're trying to tell us that the decades' old B-1B has this technology. You need to stop smoking the funny stuff.
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you better check back issue of aviation week or 1977 or 78 newspaper ,
USAF original wanted to order 128 B-1 bomber,after carter cancelled the order,citing improvement of soviet air defense.particualr the Soviet development of "look down,shoot-down radar,but during the 1979 presidential election carter being hit by reagan on "weak on national defense",reveal of new generation stealth bomber is being develop or the Project Have Blue(which enventually become F-117 and B-2) ,,when Reagan won
he decided to revive the B-1 bomber,USAF decided to silent her critic,claiming B-1 bomber large RCSmaking her sitting ducknot to mention her engine problem,tend to suffer from overheating.the first thing was RAM coating,installment of RF "Blocking" inside the engine inlet.among the new electronic jamming device was radar cancellation,similiar device was install in B-2.
to date this technology is highly classified.
 
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you better check back issue of aviation week or 1977 or 78 newspaper ,
USAF original wanted to order 128 B-1 bomber,after carter cancelled the order,citing improvement of soviet air defense.particualr the Soviet development of "look down,shoot-down radar,but during the 1979 presidential election carter being hit by reagan on "weak on national defense",reveal of new generation stealth bomber is being develop or the Project Have Blue(which enventually become F-117 and B-2) ,,when Reagan won
he decided to revive the B-1 bomber,USAF decided to silent her critic,claiming B-1 bomber large RCSmaking her sitting ducknot to mention her engine problem,tend to suffer from overheating.the first thing was RAM coating,installment of RF "Blocking" inside the engine inlet.among the new electronic jamming device was radar cancellation,similiar device was install in B-2.
to date this technology is highly classified.
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No, you'd better produce this "1977 or 78" newspaper or Aviation Week. It's idiotic to demand that I produce this 3 decades old piece of information when you know full damn well that I have no way to get a hold of such a thing. Besides, YOU are the one making this ridiculous claim, why don't YOU dig out this newspaper? You have a long and distinguished history of making ridiculous claims and then vaguely citing (but never producing) evidence that no normal person could possibly get a hold of. That's weak.
 
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The B-1B has some early low observable technology applied to it, particularly the intakes. It's frontal RCS is very small, but other aspects are not particularly stealthy. The B-1B did away with the B-1A's variable geometry intakes ( not required for the low level strike mission since it would never exceed Mach 2 ) replacing these with simpler fixed geometry inlets of a new design that mostly hid the compressor blades, a major source of an aircraft's RCS. It also uses RAM coatings to reduce RCS, and it's basic shape lends some stealth.
 
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