China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread
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Regular bidding information today about Project 017 from 41 Institution today
Some thoughts here:
1. IIRC it is the first time that bidding information publicly mentioned T800 carbon fiber on engine production, a strong indicator that it could be an ICBM project. Because China only uses T700 carbon fiber for commercial solid rockets right now, for example SD-3 and ZK-1A.
2. It mentioned two stages of engine shell for a "Three-in-one" test. I would guess it meant to be three stages combined, especially it subsequently mentioned a series of nozzles for XX-195, XX-196 and XX-197 engine. It looks like a three-stage ICBM to me, and should note 195, 196 & 197 engine first appeared on public bidding on 08/25/2022, which was almost half a year ago.
Some thoughts here:
1. IIRC it is the first time that bidding information publicly mentioned T800 carbon fiber on engine production, a strong indicator that it could be an ICBM project. Because China only uses T700 carbon fiber for commercial solid rockets right now, for example SD-3 and ZK-1A.
2. It mentioned two stages of engine shell for a "Three-in-one" test. I would guess it meant to be three stages combined, especially it subsequently mentioned a series of nozzles for XX-195, XX-196 and XX-197 engine. It looks like a three-stage ICBM to me, and should note 195, 196 & 197 engine first appeared on public bidding on 08/25/2022, which was almost half a year ago.
DF51 now ? A lot of changes in PLARF. It seems PLA is incorporating Ukrainian lessons at great speed
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However, I assume that you are referring to this?
That actually looks like an oil refinery/seperation/distillation tower.
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Sorry, you are correct
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I think I have figured out what exactly "Three-in-one" test means. It is actually a separation test between the missile's first stage and secodn stage.
For example, Ceres-1 Rocket completed its "three-in-one" test on 09/29/2019 and planned to launch its maiden flight earlier 2020. But everyone knows that Covid then hit in and everything was severely delayed and the actual flight date was 11/07/2020, one year after it completed such test.
And some other interesting thing can be derived from the bidding information.
"Project 017 carbon expansion section (of nozzle) forming technology," another strong indicator that it is indeed either an ICBM or SLBM as it has an expandable nozzle made by carbon fiber, which none of current civilian solid rocket ever used in China.
"Project 017 T800 integrated winding composite skirt molding technology," have said it on the previous post, none of current civilian rocket ever used T800 on its engine in China.
“Project 013 roll control engine nozzle production" In my untrained eye, it is probably attitude control engine used by rockets when they are going to re-enter atmosphere or have already re-entered.
So if the engine follows the timeline of Ceres-1, it should conduct its maiden in the middle of 2023 as there is no more COVID delay.
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