China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

[FairAndUnbiased]

you mean China can't mass produce ICBMs ? like DF-5 , DF-41

are you serious ?

China can produce 20 solid fueled orbital rockets per year at a single factory.

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In terms of liquid fueled rockets, LM-2 is basically a DF-5 (same 1st stage motor, fuel type and diameter). There were 50 launches per year in 2020.

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You see a difference of 20 between launch years sometimes, indicating spare capacity.

I wouldn't be surprised at a leisurely pace of 50 ICBM per year, 30 solid and 20 liquid.

 

[sunnymaxi]

China can produce 20 solid fueled orbital rockets per year at a single factory.

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In terms of liquid fueled rockets, LM-2 is basically a DF-5 (same 1st stage motor, fuel type and diameter). There were 50 launches per year in 2020.

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You see a difference of 20 between launch years sometimes, indicating spare capacity.

I wouldn't be surprised at a leisurely pace of 50 ICBM per year, 30 solid and 20 liquid.

yep. China is industrial superpower. if they gone mad, they literally can produce thousands.

China just use 3% of is industrial output on military industrial complex. imagine 5% or 7%. LAMOO

 

[Kalec]

China can produce 20 solid fueled orbital rockets per year at a single factory.

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In terms of liquid fueled rockets, LM-2 is basically a DF-5 (same 1st stage motor, fuel type and diameter). There were 50 launches per year in 2020.

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You see a difference of 20 between launch years sometimes, indicating spare capacity.

I wouldn't be surprised at a leisurely pace of 50 ICBM per year, 30 solid and 20 liquid.

China currently launches 60 rockets per year.

At this current rate, it would take at least 5 years to fill up all these silos and not to forget upgrade on TEL brigade. Still long way to go in nuclear parity. The silo field also needs years to become operable and a robust EW constellation is needed to protect silos from a first strike.

 

[externallisting]

China currently launches 60 rockets per year.

At this current rate, it would take at least 5 years to fill up all these silos and not to forget upgrade on TEL brigade. Still long way to go in nuclear parity. The silo field also needs years to become operable and a robust EW constellation is needed to protect silos from a first strike.

finally, some reason.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China currently launches 60 rockets per year.

At this current rate, it would take at least 5 years to fill up all these silos and not to forget upgrade on TEL brigade. Still long way to go in nuclear parity. The silo field also needs years to become operable and a robust EW constellation is needed to protect silos from a first strike.

The launch rate is demand limited, not capacity limited, as shown by changes of 20+ rockets within a few years.

 

[Will76]

yep. China is industrial superpower. if they gone mad, they literally can produce thousands.

China just use 3% of is industrial output on military industrial complex. imagine 5% or 7%. LAMOO

I don't think that matters in a nuclear war. In a nuclear strike they won't be able to produce since everything will be leveled at that point. It isn't a WW2 scenario

 

[clockwork]

I believe the US built close to 1,000 Minuteman Is

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, so it shouldn't be too hard. I want the ICBM production rate to be at least about 150 a year, that way the expansion should be complete within 3-4 years. There have been

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indicating the CPC wants to speed it up too.

 

[sunnymaxi]

There have been

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indicating the CPC wants to speed it up too.

China is known for their speed. it is matter of national security. and some people are under-estimating China's industrial capacity. i m sure we all will see the result by 2024-25.

if CPC wants, then game over. LOL

 

[BoeingEngineer]

No, it is 400 WgPu per year and the actual number is just an estimation. China can't reprocess all plutonium from spent fuel to WgPu and the main purpose is for civilian use.

The plutonium is never the bottleneck for China's nuclear expansion but the production rate of ICBMs, however, is. Heavy water reactor spent fuel and low burnt spent fuel from light water reactor can also be reprocessed into WgPu. It is more money saving to produce WgPu from fast breeder and the production limit is determined by reprocessing capacity.

The data was said by a staff from China Academy of Engineering Physics a.k.a China's Los Alamos. I doubt that it could be too good to be true. FYI US pit has an average 3 kg plutonium.

Nevertheless, the warhead is never the key to MAD. ICBM is, and will be the main difficulty for China to reach parity.

Do you know how many ICBM can China produce per year?

Last read, China can now produce 300 T-800 carbon fiber per year !!

Also, US use 3kg for each warhead such as W-88 which has a 500 KT yeild.

Does this mean using just 1kg will produce warhead with 1/3 yield at 150 KT ?

 

[BoeingEngineer]

China currently launches 60 rockets per year.

At this current rate, it would take at least 5 years to fill up all these silos and not to forget upgrade on TEL brigade. Still long way to go in nuclear parity. The silo field also needs years to become operable and a robust EW constellation is needed to protect silos from a first strike.

After this pelosi incident.

This will dramatically speed up !!