China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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1. DF-41 does have MIRV capabilities. Depending on the throw-weight and warhead, it may be able to carry 6-12 warheads.
2. DF-5s (and silo based missiles in general) can carry more warheads because they have a higher throw-weight.
I just asked as the wikipedia page said that df-41 has nirv but only df-21D has marv
 

bustead

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I just asked as the wikipedia page said that df-41 has nirv but only df-21D has marv
Oh I thought you were asking about MIRV. My bad.
In this case, MARV is basically a warhead with terminal seekers so that it can track moving targets. Such a seeker can be IR/radar but they are all very delicate parts. The key issue here is the speed of the reentry vehicle. IRBMs (like DF-21D) are slower because they do not need as much energy to travel so far. Thus, the reentry heating is a bit more tolerable than ICBMs. The sensors can potentially survive with less hardening.
This means that IRBMs with terminal guidance are a bit easier to build. ICBMs with the same ability will likely cost more because of the extra R&D.
There is also the issue of how to track a target. For ASBMs, you will need to track the moving target with other means before launching. Keep in mind that IRBMs can be supported by long range drones (WZ-8), OTH radars or other frontline units. Building a system that can track a moving ship from 10000 km away is going to be significantly more expensive. Not impossible but definitely costly. Thus, ICBMs with MARV will be more expensive to build and to support.
Finally, there is the issue of warheads. If you can fit nuclear warheads on a missile, why worry about accuracy? Afterall, if ICBMs are being launched, a nuclear war is either in progress or very likely either way. May as well fit a nuclear warhead on the missile and skip all that expensive R&D.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I just asked as the wikipedia page said that df-41 has nirv but only df-21D has marv
wikipedia is unreliable.

This is January 12, 2022

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This is January 13, 2022, showing a certain country increased its railroad length by 70k km in 1 day, according to Wikipedia.

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But notice how the track length increased, but the area per km track and population per km track did not change. The given number also does not appear in any of their given sources.

You trust Wikipedia?
 

r41

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il looks Chinese DF17, Russian Zicon and Korean hypersonic missile test are moving something in the US eventually... please also note from the article:

Russia and China are developing similar weapons, but their designs are all dual-use, meaning capable of carrying nuclear or conventional warheads, so their need for accuracy is not necessarily as great as in the U.S. designs.
 

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il looks Chinese DF17, Russian Zicon and Korean hypersonic missile test are moving something in the US eventually... please also note from the article:

Russia and China are developing similar weapons, but their designs are all dual-use, meaning capable of carrying nuclear or conventional warheads, so their need for accuracy is not necessarily as great as in the U.S. designs.
When your hypersonic weapon design has a 22kg conventional warhead it had better be accurate.
 

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il looks Chinese DF17, Russian Zicon and Korean hypersonic missile test are moving something in the US eventually... please also note from the article:

Russia and China are developing similar weapons, but their designs are all dual-use, meaning capable of carrying nuclear or conventional warheads, so their need for accuracy is not necessarily as great as in the U.S. designs.
Writer :
Mr. Thompson holds doctoral and masters degrees in government from Georgetown University and a bachelor of science degree in political science from Northeastern University. He was born in 1951 and currently resides in McLean, Virginia and Plymouth, Massachusetts with his wife Carla and two children — Matthew and Ariel, twins born in 1997.

Not technical analysis by an military (or any other ) engineer/scentist/mathematician but an infulencer post by a socialhacker.

Waste of time to read it.
 
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