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Trump may have made Americans feel better about themselves but he missed an opportunity to improve America
by Spengler December 7, 2020

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Trump was the best that America could come up with at the moment. In reality, America imports its Wizard, including real wizards like the Hungarian-Jewish scientists who built the atom bomb (and who in the person of Edward Teller persuaded Ronald Reagan to pursue strategic defense). It also imports fake wizards, for example, Henry Kissinger, whom I qualified in a recent essay as “Klemens von Metternich – as played by Groucho Marx.”

The sad fact is that the US economy is 70% consumption, against an OECD average of 60%. We don’t invest in future productivity; we borrow and we consume. That is America’s problem, and Trump did nothing to correct it. Someone needs to tell Americans that there’s a difference between winning and feeling good while we’re losing. If America wants to remain the world’s preeminent power, it needs to teach high school students Calculus in 10th grade and subsidize engineering majors instead of resentment studies. It needs a tax system that encourages US tech companies to make hardware as well as software. And it needs a lot of qualified immigrants from China and India to build new industries while we wait for the long-term impact of education reforms.

Why won’t any politician stand up and say this? Probably because no-one will believe it’s possible. A political scientist of my acquaintance, Clifford Angell Bates, posted this comment on my recent report of Chinese breakthroughs in 5G broadband: “I think we need to take John von Neumann’s recommendation that he gave regarding what should be done to [the] Soviets,” that is, a preemptive nuclear attack. Why not just improve America and compete with China? I posted back.

Prof. Bates replied: “Sorry… given the declining IQ of the American population due to dysgenetic behavior of large parts of the American population and the failure of our schools to educate the young to produce the necessary skillset to pull it off, any thought of trying to repeat what Reagan was able to do is very, very unlikely. The odds of being able to reform our education system are as unlikely [as] someone winning [the lottery] Powerball – heck no, winning 10 Powerballs. Why so low? Because of the political interests that make the public education system the clusterf*** it is. Also, China unlike the Soviet Union is wholly integrated into the global economic system and is working at the same level as we are. No, we f*** up in 1988-89 when [we] did not clamp down and cutting them off… Now we have the devil to pay… I prefer not to be ruled by them… so I think what Neumann recommends needs to be taken seriously if one wishes not to face the dismal future of slavery under a Chinese hegemonic despotism.”

Prof. Bates was letting off steam, to be sure; given the opportunity to press the button and start a nuclear war with China, I suspect he would demur. But his bad mood is indicative: This is an America that eagerly believed the happy stories that Donald Trump told about it but doesn’t really believe in itself. It will alternate between rage and despondency for the foreseeable future.
 

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Trump may have made Americans feel better about themselves but he missed an opportunity to improve America
by Spengler December 7, 2020

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Trump was the best that America could come up with at the moment. In reality, America imports its Wizard, including real wizards like the Hungarian-Jewish scientists who built the atom bomb (and who in the person of Edward Teller persuaded Ronald Reagan to pursue strategic defense). It also imports fake wizards, for example, Henry Kissinger, whom I qualified in a recent essay as “Klemens von Metternich – as played by Groucho Marx.”

The sad fact is that the US economy is 70% consumption, against an OECD average of 60%. We don’t invest in future productivity; we borrow and we consume. That is America’s problem, and Trump did nothing to correct it. Someone needs to tell Americans that there’s a difference between winning and feeling good while we’re losing. If America wants to remain the world’s preeminent power, it needs to teach high school students Calculus in 10th grade and subsidize engineering majors instead of resentment studies. It needs a tax system that encourages US tech companies to make hardware as well as software. And it needs a lot of qualified immigrants from China and India to build new industries while we wait for the long-term impact of education reforms.

Why won’t any politician stand up and say this? Probably because no-one will believe it’s possible. A political scientist of my acquaintance, Clifford Angell Bates, posted this comment on my recent report of Chinese breakthroughs in 5G broadband: “I think we need to take John von Neumann’s recommendation that he gave regarding what should be done to [the] Soviets,” that is, a preemptive nuclear attack. Why not just improve America and compete with China? I posted back.

Prof. Bates replied: “Sorry… given the declining IQ of the American population due to dysgenetic behavior of large parts of the American population and the failure of our schools to educate the young to produce the necessary skillset to pull it off, any thought of trying to repeat what Reagan was able to do is very, very unlikely. The odds of being able to reform our education system are as unlikely [as] someone winning [the lottery] Powerball – heck no, winning 10 Powerballs. Why so low? Because of the political interests that make the public education system the clusterf*** it is. Also, China unlike the Soviet Union is wholly integrated into the global economic system and is working at the same level as we are. No, we f*** up in 1988-89 when [we] did not clamp down and cutting them off… Now we have the devil to pay… I prefer not to be ruled by them… so I think what Neumann recommends needs to be taken seriously if one wishes not to face the dismal future of slavery under a Chinese hegemonic despotism.”

Prof. Bates was letting off steam, to be sure; given the opportunity to press the button and start a nuclear war with China, I suspect he would demur. But his bad mood is indicative: This is an America that eagerly believed the happy stories that Donald Trump told about it but doesn’t really believe in itself. It will alternate between rage and despondency for the foreseeable future.

So now they are calling for the thermonuclear genocide of the Chinese people. Holy shit...
 

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China needs to pump out nukes like there is no tomorrow... at least 3500 but 10000 to be more safe. 300, even 1000 is a sad joke

Yea, I agree. China needs to be 100% sure of nuclear survivability in the event of a nuclear attack. Last report about a decade ago by the US said that Chinese response is "far from assured". If they didn't respect Chinese nuclear capability a decade ago, I doubt even with the moderate-to-significant improvements in the last decade that they will now.

China seriously needs over 5,000 nuclear warheads of various types, including tactical nukes. It needs 20 modern ballistic missile submarines and hundreds of nuclear-capable 5th and 6th gen aircraft (at minimum) by 2035, preferably earlier but miracles don't happen.
 

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Trump may have made Americans feel better about themselves but he missed an opportunity to improve America
by Spengler December 7, 2020

...

Trump was the best that America could come up with at the moment. In reality, America imports its Wizard, including real wizards like the Hungarian-Jewish scientists who built the atom bomb (and who in the person of Edward Teller persuaded Ronald Reagan to pursue strategic defense). It also imports fake wizards, for example, Henry Kissinger, whom I qualified in a recent essay as “Klemens von Metternich – as played by Groucho Marx.”

The sad fact is that the US economy is 70% consumption, against an OECD average of 60%. We don’t invest in future productivity; we borrow and we consume. That is America’s problem, and Trump did nothing to correct it. Someone needs to tell Americans that there’s a difference between winning and feeling good while we’re losing. If America wants to remain the world’s preeminent power, it needs to teach high school students Calculus in 10th grade and subsidize engineering majors instead of resentment studies. It needs a tax system that encourages US tech companies to make hardware as well as software. And it needs a lot of qualified immigrants from China and India to build new industries while we wait for the long-term impact of education reforms.

Why won’t any politician stand up and say this? Probably because no-one will believe it’s possible. A political scientist of my acquaintance, Clifford Angell Bates, posted this comment on my recent report of Chinese breakthroughs in 5G broadband: “I think we need to take John von Neumann’s recommendation that he gave regarding what should be done to [the] Soviets,” that is, a preemptive nuclear attack. Why not just improve America and compete with China? I posted back.

Prof. Bates replied: “Sorry… given the declining IQ of the American population due to dysgenetic behavior of large parts of the American population and the failure of our schools to educate the young to produce the necessary skillset to pull it off, any thought of trying to repeat what Reagan was able to do is very, very unlikely. The odds of being able to reform our education system are as unlikely [as] someone winning [the lottery] Powerball – heck no, winning 10 Powerballs. Why so low? Because of the political interests that make the public education system the clusterf*** it is. Also, China unlike the Soviet Union is wholly integrated into the global economic system and is working at the same level as we are. No, we f*** up in 1988-89 when [we] did not clamp down and cutting them off… Now we have the devil to pay… I prefer not to be ruled by them… so I think what Neumann recommends needs to be taken seriously if one wishes not to face the dismal future of slavery under a Chinese hegemonic despotism.”

Prof. Bates was letting off steam, to be sure; given the opportunity to press the button and start a nuclear war with China, I suspect he would demur. But his bad mood is indicative: This is an America that eagerly believed the happy stories that Donald Trump told about it but doesn’t really believe in itself. It will alternate between rage and despondency for the foreseeable future.

America is utterly pathetic, why does it(a professor mind you) always assume that a world america doesn’t get to be on top and shit into everyone’s cereal bowl would be a world where China doing the same.

For an existing hyper aggressive militarist power, it sure loves to engage in alot of fetishistic fantasy of its head being repeated stepped on by a hypothetical military power that only exist in its own imagination.

If you are American and think like this angry dude here, nobody wants to rule you, fuck right off, mind your own business and try not kill everyone in a fit of angry tantrum over the news of China doing something better.
 
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