DF21D from Zhejiang to South China Sea ?
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DF21D from Zhejiang to South China Sea ?
One DF-21 one DF-26, not sure which one was filmed.
Are they testing against a target ship or just firing it into a region of the SCS?
Cold war mindset is most certainly not irrational or paranoid. They were obsolete when US was the sole superpower but are slowly coming back again due to China's rise. Cold War is the obvious solution when Hot war is too costly. In this modern day, any war is too costly for industry, trade and wealth. This is due to the huge destructive potential for both conventional and nuclear bombs. Its much easier and cheaper to bomb places than to build it up. So, countries tend to avoid war to avoid the enormous cost.
China could maintain a tiny nuke arsenal when it was a tiny country in terms GDP. People tend to forget even 20 years ago, China was 16 times smaller in terms of GDP. So, it was nothing compared to US and not considered a threat. So, it could main tain a small nuke stockpile and get away with it. There was nothing exiential about China that US and the western hegemony was really worried about.
But now times have changed. The racists and white supremacists are in power in Washington and will continue to gain power. For these people, Destroying China even if they had to swallow a loss of few cities is acceptable. Because for them, maintaining white-european hegemony over the world is very important. China's current deterrence posture depends on US not willing to swallow a small second strike that might be able to destroy a few cities. China's nuclear forces do not even put warheads in the missiles. So, they are extremely vulnerable to a first strike.
I think over the next 20-30 years, tensions will keep rising as the US desire to stop China only keeps growing. Even attacking China unprovoked will slowly become a popular policy in US. The same way, China will also start feeling the threat and start building up more nukes. This cold war will obviously be different from the last one. But I think nuclear and military tension will not go down. It might be even higher since US has greater willingness to destroy China rather than change it. Its less ideological and more racial.
when it has entered service? 2 or 3 years ago? Still too early to replace the DF-31 and DF-5, i think. Does anyone knows what is its production rate?
How do we know that it hit a moving target? or is this part of the element of surprise of the weapon?
All research I did only results a hitting a static target. If there is really an actual demonstration that it can hit a moving target even a size of a small patrol boat, then this would send a very credible detterent signal.
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Well we have confirmed at least 2 brigades are in operation right now and 3rd is forming. One is in inner Mongolia and one in central China either Hanzhong or Luoyang
Let see 1 brigade has at least 12-18 launcher .So 3 brigades 40-50 launcher Say 5 Mirved warhead for each missile 40X5=200 warheads. It has been in development for a long time and last year they were IOC
The DF-41 has been in development for a very long time. The Pentagon’s annual report on Chinese military developments first mentioned the missile in 1997 and sensational news articles have claimed it has been operational for years. The DF-41 was widely expected to be displayed at the 2015 military parade in Beijing, but that didn’t happen. Nor was it displayed at the PLA’s anniversary parade in 2017.
The DF-41 training at Jilantai with the other launchers is probably part of the formal integration of the new missile into PLAFRF service, more than two decades after development began. It seems likely that the DF-41 will appear at the military parade in Beijing on October 1st. Indeed, two months after the training occurred at Jilantai, 18 DF-41 launchers (potentially the same 18) could be seen on a satellite photo of a military facility in Yangfang about 35 kilometers (22 miles) northwest of Beijing apparently getting ready for the October parade. The image first made its way onto the Internet on August 9th, when it was by the Twitter user @Oedosoldier. The image carried the user’s logo but it was a screenshot from a Digital Globe image on TerraServer dated July 4, 2019.
New Missile Silo And DF-41 Launchers Seen In Chinese Nuclear Missile Training Area
Posted on Sep.03, 2019 in , by
By Hans M. Kristensen
Newly acquired satellite photos acquired from (Maxar) show that the People’s Liberation Army Rocket Force (PLARF) is building what appears to be a new type of missile silo in the missile training area near Jilantai, possibly for use by a new ICBM.
The photos also show that 18 road-mobile launchers of the long-awaited DF-41 ICBM were training in the area in April-May 2019 together with launchers for the DF-31AG ICBM, possibly the DF-5B ICBM, the DF-26 IRBM, and the DF-21 MRBM.
Altogether, more than 72 missile launchers can be seen operating together.
China is in the middle of a significant modernization of its nuclear weapons arsenal and the Jilantai training area, which has been constructed since 2014, appears to play an important part in that modernization effort.
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How do we know it hasn't hit a moving target? I doubt the Chinese would want to release this publicly in order to not stoke tensions and keep the capabilities as much of a secret as possible. Making your enemies think your missile cannot hit moving targets would be much more useful in wartime than making your enemies know you have the capability of hitting moving targets.
The US must have been alerted by the missile warning system and sent the RC-135s to South China Sea.
So far only uncorroborated report about hitting the simulated naval target. But I think it is good to clear the doubt that this is no empty threat.
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