Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

[wssth0306]

"Having the side by side setup. To me, as a former F-15E combat fighter pilot, having flown in that tandem setup, to me, it's just more user friendly having that tandem cockpit setup and having that 360° view. that's unimpeded by another person. No offense, bro, but I don't want to sit next to someone while I'm trying to do fighter operations, while I'm doing stealth targeting. I want to have a 360° target view around me so nothing is distracting from that."

4th gen dudebro who's unaware of 5th gen SA, let alone 6th gen SA. It's like a MiG-21F pilot dumping on an F-14/15/18.

Exactly , most the ex-fighter pilots on youtube didn't ever fly in any 5th gen platform , and they for the most part cannot comprehend how futrue air warfare looks like.
Their opinion is just mostly out of both ignorance , and more importantly the typical soldier thing of "I don't like this new thing", you hear most retried fighter pilot talk about F35, the same way the soldiers back in 1960s talking about switching from M14 to M16, or how these days some soldiers talk about thermal sights.

 

[TK3600]

"Having the side by side setup. To me, as a former F-15E combat fighter pilot, having flown in that tandem setup, to me, it's just more user friendly having that tandem cockpit setup and having that 360° view. that's unimpeded by another person. No offense, bro, but I don't want to sit next to someone while I'm trying to do fighter operations, while I'm doing stealth targeting. I want to have a 360° target view around me so nothing is distracting from that."

4th gen dudebro who's unaware of 5th gen SA, let alone 6th gen SA. It's like a MiG-21F pilot dumping on an F-14/15/18.

Equivalent of Mig 21 pilot talking shit about F-22.

 

[EmoBirb]

No offense, bro, but I don't want to sit next to someone while I'm trying to do fighter operations, while I'm doing stealth targeting. I want to have a 360° target view around me so nothing is distracting from that.

Wait until he finds out that people sitting in rows within AEW&C aircraft conduct much more complex tasks without seeing anything outside.

The side-by-side seating is something weird to latch onto, given that most bombers, many helicopters and other aircraft have this sort of layout. Tandem seating is overall an exception and generally done because it's easier to implement into an already existing airframe without immense changes. But when you design an aircraft from the ground up to be centered around two people, there's no disadvantage in going side-by-side. In fact, with the Su-27KUB and Su-34 the Russians found it to be worthwhile to do major modifications to the airframe to implement that seating arrangement for these aircraft.

 

[Engineer]

This gives a new meaning to the phrase "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".

 

[sequ]

Equivalent of Mig 21 pilot talking shit about F-22.

Early MiG-21's can be considered 2nd gen.

 

[tygyg1111]

It's even a dedicated military channel, but the quality of the program and the comment section is so poor that it's almost kindergarten level. After watching the video, I felt like the folds of my brain were smoothed out.

There was a semi-subtle shift around May this year where arguments by the plebs in the comments sections went from evidence based to boast based. That is, the confidence in their own systems was lost so they have now shifted to Indian style "I believe what I say, and I say it because I believe it".
The reactions to the tweet in the other thread of some boba lib in the US attending a fancy dinner with all Harvard (or Stanford) grads was exactly this - the pain of a people who have finally accepted their place. They know that it's beyond their abilities to win back that status, so all that's left for them is bitching.

 

[no_name]

^^^ Trump knew this method all along. That's why he always win, win, win, no matter the realities on the ground.