Car bomb fails to detonate in Britain


crazyinsane105

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Explosives-packed car defused in London By DAVID STRINGER, Associated Press Writer
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LONDON - Police in London's bustling nightclub and theater district on Friday defused a bomb that could have killed hundreds after an ambulance crew spotted smoke coming from a Mercedes filled with a lethal mix of gasoline, propane and nails, authorities said.

The bomb near Piccadilly Circus was powerful enough to have caused "significant injury or loss of life" — possibly killing hundreds, British anti-terror police chief Peter Clarke said.

The discovery resurrected fears that followed the July 7, 2005, suicide bombings that killed 52 people on three London subways and a bus and failed attacks on the transit system just two weeks later.

"We are currently facing the most serious and sustained threat to our security from international terrorism," Britain's new home secretary, Jacqui Smith, said after an emergency meeting of top officials.

Two officials in Washington briefed on the investigation said British authorities had so far found no terrorist link in the early hours of the investigation. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case, said the inquiry had yielded no suspects and no definitive description of anyone leaving the vehicle.

Police were examining footage from closed-circuit TV cameras, Clarke said, hoping the surveillance network that covers much of central London will help them track down the driver of the Mercedes.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee who was briefed on the investigation, said British authorities had recovered a cell phone that they believed was to be the trigger for the explosion.

"They found a cell phone and it was going to be used to detonate the bomb," he said.

The events unfolded when an ambulance crew — responding to a call just before 1:30 a.m. about a person who had fallen at a Haymarket nightclub — noticed smoke coming from a car parked in front of the building, Clarke said.

The crew alerted police, and a bomb squad manually disabled the device, Clarke said.

Photographs of the metallic green Mercedes show a canister bearing the words "patio gas," indicating it was propane, next to the car. The back door was open with blankets spilling out. The car was removed from the scene after a bomb squad disabled the explosives.

The busy Haymarket thoroughfare is packed with restaurants, bars, a cinema complex and West End theaters, and was buzzing at that hour. "Phantom of the Opera" is playing at Her Majesty's Theater down the street.

It was ladies' night Thursday, nicknamed "Sugar 'N' Spice," at the Tiger Tiger nightclub, a three-story venue that at full capacity can pack in 1,770 people and stays open until 3 a.m.

Police also were investigating the possibility that the planned attack could have been criminal in nature. Authorities closed the Piccadilly Circus subway station for eight hours and cordoned off a 10-block area around the scene.

Hours after the discovery, police closed a major road on the edge of Hyde Park to investigate a suspicious vehicle. Sky News and the British Broadcasting Corp. reported that the vehicle was linked to the foiled plot, although a police spokeswoman denied any connection had been established.

Another suspicious car led police to briefly close Fleet Street — once home to the bulk of Britain's press and now populated by some of London's largest law firms and the Royal Courts of Justice.

A British security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the security details, said there were similarities between the device and vehicle bombs used by insurgents in Iraq. But the two officials in Washington said it was too early in the investigation to tell if those similarities were significant.

The British security official also said the domestic spy agency MI5 would examine possible connections between Friday's bomb attempt and at least two similar foiled plots — to attack a London nightclub in 2004 and to pack limousines in New York with gas canisters and shrapnel.

In the 2004 plot, accused members of an al-Qaida-linked terror cell were convicted of conspiring to cause explosions. One of the possible targets M15 overheard them discussing was the Ministry of Sound, one of London's biggest and most famous nightclubs.

One man is heard saying the plan was to "Blow the whole thing up."

Gordon Brown, who only Wednesday succeeded Tony Blair as prime minister, called it a reminder that Britain faces a serious and continuous threat of terrorist attacks: "I will stress to the Cabinet that the vigilance must be maintained over the next few days."

There had been no prior intelligence of planned attacks from the al-Qaida terror network, a British government official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

Londoners were relatively unfazed by the news. People crowded onto buses and subway trains during the afternoon rush hour, shopping streets were busy and sidewalk cafes did brisk business.

"Sure, it's disturbing, and obviously it reminds everyone of 7/7," said Ian Hiskos, 32, eating at a cafe across the block from the police cordon on Haymarket. "I try not to think about these things."

The terror threat level in Britain has remained at "severe" — meaning a terrorist attack is highly likely — since last August.

On Friday, Metropolitan Police said it sent more officers on the streets of central London. Authorities also stepped up security at Wimbledon.

One analyst said the bombers could be trying to send Britain's new leader a message.

"It's a way of testing Gordon Brown," said Bob Ayers, a security expert at the Chatham House think tank. "It's not too far-fetched to assume it was designed to expedite the decision on withdrawal (from Iraq)."

The U.S. government urged Americans abroad to be vigilant but officials said they saw no potential terrorist threat in the United States ahead of next week's July 4 Independence Day holiday.

"At this time we are characterizing this as a localized incident in London," said Laura Keehner, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security.

New York strengthened its already tight security as a precaution, putting additional police in Times Square and the mass transit system.

"We're going to ramp up a little bit, but nothing dramatic," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show. "We'll take a little bit of extra precaution. Some of you will notice, some of you won't — but we have to be cognizant."
 

FuManChu

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I'm not sure it was even armed. It has been suggested the driver bailed out when vapour started to emit from the bomb. This would suggest he wasn't near his target.

Dropping it outside of a nightclub isn't terribly effective, as people leave at different times - they're open very late and I can tell you they're often nearly empty by closing time.

Goes to show sometimes things don't go the bombers' way. Reminds me of those dicks whose bombs didn't go off - tried to claim they were hoax bombers or some nonsense! Real heroes trying to deny they wanted to set any bombs off, lol!
 

Neutral Zone

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Here's some breaking news, not sure what to make of it at the minute. :confused:

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Car on fire crashes into airport

A car on fire has been driven at the main terminal building at Glasgow Airport, police have confirmed.

Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath.

They have also described seeing two Asian men, one of whom was on fire, who had been in the car.

The airport has been evacuated and all flights suspended following the incident at 1515 BST.

One eyewitness said: "I heard the sound of a car's wheels spinning and smoke coming out.

"I saw a Jeep Cherokee apparently as if it was trying to get right through the doors into the terminal building.

"There were flames coming out from underneath then some men appeared from in amongst the flames.

The incident happened 1515 BST on Saturday

"The police ran over and the people started fighting with the police. I then heard what sounded like an explosion."

Eye-witness Richard Gray told BBC News 24: "A green Jeep was in the middle of the doorway burning.

"There was an Asian guy who was pulled out of the car by two police officers, who he was trying to fight off. They've got him on the ground.

"The car didn't actually explode. There were a few pops and bangs which presumably was the petrol."

Two men, one of whom was reported to be badly burned, were seen being led away in handcuffs.
 

Cheetah

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I hope the British catch these bastard bombers put them is the same cars they were going to use to kill others.and kaboom.
Make a example out of there Terorist as.s.
 

The_Zergling

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There's something in these attacks that seems to have been overlooked in most reports - Britain has probably one of the most extensive surveillance networks in the world wit cameras everywhere, and still there were terrorism attempts.

The eyewitness description (of the second attempt) suggests rank amateurs with no training. They didn't actually get close enough to do much damage, and their behavior suggests that something went very wrong - what with one of them on fire and trying to get into the trunk. As Juan Cole put it:

Just remember what screw-ups these guys are when Alberto Gonzales comes to you with a plea to repeal the Bill of Rights in order to deal with them.
 

FuManChu

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There's something in these attacks that seems to have been overlooked in most reports - Britain has probably one of the most extensive surveillance networks in the world wit cameras everywhere, and still there were terrorism attempts.
Well, yeah. What are CCTV monitors supposed to do - alert the Police to every Asian driving a car? I'm sure you weren't suggesting that, but realistically no surveillance network is going to prevent crime.

Also there aren't cameras "everywhere".
 

Rising China

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I don't think those fighters really want to bomb the Brits. They just want to let the Brits know that they are there, right in the heart of Britain. It's just a psychological game. How can two car bombs fails to detonate? Definitely, they have no intention to do it.

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crazyinsane105

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I don't think those fighters really want to bomb the Brits. They just want to let the Brits know that they are there, right in the heart of Britain. It's just a psychological game. How can two car bombs fails to detonate? Definitely, they have no intention to do it.

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Do doubt it. This week is the second anniversary of the July 7 bombings and these amateurs are trying to conduct another round of attacks. Apparently they weren't able to go to a foreign country and get proper training, hence the huge screw ups they commited.
 

FuManChu

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How can two car bombs fails to detonate?
Err, I dunno. Maybe the people who made them are not professional bomb-makers and so made mistakes? Could you make a working car-bomb that was safe to drive? I doubt it.

It's obvious these devices were meant to kill. I suggest you take your apologist crap somewhere else. :nono:
 

The_Zergling

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I don't think those fighters really want to bomb the Brits. They just want to let the Brits know that they are there, right in the heart of Britain. It's just a psychological game. How can two car bombs fails to detonate? Definitely, they have no intention to do it.

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Naw, they just suck. Hell, at least the IRA knew what it was doing.

At any rate, I'm still not completely sure about whether or not any real explosives have been found; a bunch of fuel piled inside a car suggests a very crude and relatively ineffective bomb. Propane cans won't explode until the propane has literally boiled, and that would only happen after the gasoline had burned for a while in a not particularly death spewing manner.

Each had a fuse linked to several gallons of gasoline arranged around six to eight propane tanks. No mention of real explosives, like RDX, which could have trigged an incredibly effective firebomb. Still, would have been very easy for any building in the surrounding area to catch fire.
 

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