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Arcgem

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Perhaps our American Chinese can help me out here. Is this representative of the Chinese in America today? If it is I found it quite astonishing that Chinese Americans could find it in them to support a man, in racist himself, is supported by racist .

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Trump and his surging Asian American vote

Trump's tough stance on the Chinese Communist Party is winning him support among a swathe of Asian American communities.

by William Huang
Oct 12, 2020

When a blind Chinese activist named Chen Guangcheng spoke at the Republican National Convention praising Trump for standing up to the Beijing regime in August, many Democrats called him ungrateful, as the Chinese lawyer and pro-life activist who exposed the evils of the one-child policy implemented in his hometown of Linyi was rescued from China and found refuge in America during the Obama administration.

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From my experience, there are two reasons why Chinese would vote Trump.

The first is because they are fed up with Democrats ignoring them in favor of other minorities and are voting Republican out of spite.

The second is a byproduct of the first, but more pragmatic. Some parents are upset about how affirmative action harms their children's chances to get into a top college. I personally sympathize with this one, having gone through the college admissions process and seeing Chinese classmates who were more hardworking than I was end up at lower-ranking schools.

Note that this applies only to the older Chinese, the ones who immigrated here. The younger generation, my generation, is a toss-up. The ones immersed in the social media culture swing left. Others lean right, especially the ones from religious families.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Something is terribly with the world today.


'Parent shouting Allahu Akbar' beheads Paris teacher 'for showing pupils cartoons of the Prophet in class': Terrorist is then shot dead by cops following chase

By Peter Allen In Paris and Chris Jewers For Mailonline17:42, 16 Oct 2020 , updated 18:34, 16 Oct 2020

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This type of acts are always should be condemned.
However, knowing western countries, they should hold their high horse first before playing the victim card.
 

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Something is terribly with the world today.


'Parent shouting Allahu Akbar' beheads Paris teacher 'for showing pupils cartoons of the Prophet in class': Terrorist is then shot dead by cops following chase

By Peter Allen In Paris and Chris Jewers For Mailonline17:42, 16 Oct 2020 , updated 18:34, 16 Oct 2020

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A lot of Weibo comments point to an earlier accident in China when the rocker Xu Wei recited a passage from the Qoran during a performance. For reasons I fail to understand a lot of Muslim got offended and things were quickly getting out of hand. The Chinese authority then stepped in and pulled Xu Wei's albums from record stores and things quieted down. Say what you will about the Chinese government's stability over justice approach, it probably saved Xu Wei's life.

In any case, given the French schadenfreude over Kunming knife attacks, I hope some Chinese media has the guts to tell the French it's the time to stop being free speech fundamentalists.
 

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A lot of Weibo comments point to an earlier accident in China when the rocker Xu Wei recited a passage from the Qoran during a performance. For reasons I fail to understand a lot of Muslim got offended and things were quickly getting out of hand. The Chinese authority then stepped in and pulled Xu Wei's albums from record stores and things quieted down. Say what you will about the Chinese government's stability over justice approach, it probably saved Xu Wei's life.

In any case, given the French schadenfreude over Kunming knife attacks, I hope some Chinese media has the guts to tell the French it's the time to stop being free speech fundamentalists.
Well there lies the problem. It was never there for you to understand.

You see, you are trying to "understand" what's wrong in accessing properties of others and wondering why would they react to that.

It's simple. Freedom of expression must guarantee freedom of reaction. And anyone is free to react in any way that p[person wants to react. When you are "wondering", you are effectively trying to narrow down that person's space to react. It was never the guy's to recite, at least without permission from the particular group.

I applaud Chinese government here. That's the way.

As a born Buddhist agnostic, i live in muslim majority country. When i interact with them i make sure i do it in the way they prefer it, or i don't interact. What it does is, when i don't cross over their space, they don't cross over mine. It's like an unspoken rule.

It worked flawlessly up until couple of years ago when some free speechers came screaming. When they got manhandled, they ran away in Europe. It doesn't seem freedom is as brave as it tries to pretend.

I condemn terrorist attack. However, an act of terror means there are terrorists & there are terrorized.
It seems to me, in west there are a lot of professional terrorized people. My sympathy for them is probably close to 0.
 

Petrolicious88

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I've never even heard of an Asian person who supports Trump and all my friends are Asian. Of course I "support" him cus he's messing up America but I don't think that's what they're talking about here...

Caveat: Basically all my friends are MD, PhD, or at least Masters so higher education is my sample bias. If all the Asians who have trouble keeping the lights on or are on welfare like Trump, I wouldn't know.
There are actually a lot of Chinese Americans that support Trump. And applaud Trump’s tough stance towards China. They generally fall into two groups:

1). New Chinese immigrants that take advantage of government welfare (healthcare, housing, etc..), and likes Trump’s tough stance on immigration. They don’t want other immigrants to come in and compete for government subsidies.

2). Highly educated Chinese Americans that hate the CCP. They grew up under the Cultural Revolution. Their parents were intellectuals and suffered greatly during that period. They have a deep, ingrained hatred towards the CCP.
 

Nobonita Barua

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2). Highly educated Chinese Americans that hate the CCP. They grew up under the Cultural Revolution. Their parents were intellectuals and suffered greatly during that period. They have a deep, ingrained hatred towards the CCP.
So they ran away to safety built on dead a** of native americans? Come on.

These are traitors. Don't give them the comfort of "my deep wounded a** " theory. They will not hesitate one bit to sell those intellectual suffered parents if their "free-loading" life style come under threat.

Go ahead, tell me i am wrong.
 

Petrolicious88

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So they ran away to safety built on dead a** of native americans? Come on.

These are traitors. Don't give them the comfort of "my deep wounded a** " theory. They will not hesitate one bit to sell those intellectual suffered parents if their "free-loading" life style come under threat.

Go ahead, tell me i am wrong.
Lol what are you talking about.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Lol what are you talking about.
The deep wound theory.

Back then, when we were at war during 1971, many ran away.

Till date, those "educated elites" who never fought ,try to tell us how we should go forward. How much they feel from the deep wounds(!!) despite setting foot here once in one or two decade.
Get it now?
 
There are actually a lot of Chinese Americans that support Trump. And applaud Trump’s tough stance towards China. They generally fall into two groups:

1). New Chinese immigrants that take advantage of government welfare (healthcare, housing, etc..), and likes Trump’s tough stance on immigration. They don’t want other immigrants to come in and compete for government subsidies.

2). Highly educated Chinese Americans that hate the CCP. They grew up under the Cultural Revolution. Their parents were intellectuals and suffered greatly during that period. They have a deep, ingrained hatred towards the CCP.
I've never seen a #2 before. All the highly educated Chinese Americans I know understand that the mistakes of the past are over and now, the CCP is the hope of all China and Chinese people. Even though some may have misconceptions about freedoms and make light-hearted jokes (and sometimes, I partake), I don't know of any who hold a grudge. As a matter of fact, my grandparents on both sides were intellectuals and suffered under the earlier days of the CCP but they don't teach hate; my parents were taught that that is water under the bridge between citizens and an imperfect young government in a tough position trying to do its best.
 

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