Banned threads, WHY!!!!


solarz

Brigadier
I think we've mostly been skirting around the real issue. It's not politics in general that this forum has a problem with, it's more specifically Country A vs Country B.

Most of the time it's China vs USA, and sometimes it's Russia vs USA, or India vs Pakistan, or Israel vs Palestine.

In a military forum, it's pretty much unavoidable to make such comparisons. Especially when hot conflicts flare up, such as the case with the Ukrainian and Syrian civil wars, it's inevitable that forumites supporting different sides will start arguing about their beliefs.

More recently, in the Trade War issue, some pro-Chinese forumites have expressed their anger at the US for its recent actions, and fellow pro-American forumites took offense at this, prompting Deino to step in as moderator.

I don't think we can ever avoid this. We all have our beliefs, and we're all passionate about them, and sometimes tempers flare up and people need to cool down. I don't mind some threads being closed for a while, so long as they will be re-opened when everyone has calmed down. As it is, I think we've tried to keep things civil in the three spin-off threads, but it did take the closing of the main thread for that to happen.

I've been here for, damn, 10 years now. I've seen my share of hot topics, and took part in my share of back-and-forth. I remember back when BD Popeye was still moderator and cracked down on any political discussion at all.

Personally, I don't think any changing of current rules are necessary. I think we just need more mods. I understand the frustration of newer members when hot threads get closed, I used to feel the same way. This forum is different from others, and the moderation here can take some used to. However, with the perspective of years, I feel this is really for the best. Our forums are not littered with pointless ideological bickering, and our members are knowledgeable in their respective domains. This is only possible thanks to the efforts of the moderation team.
 
Allowed only in a subsection of the forum, yes, though even then there would be some limits (i.e.: like no swearing, and any such bashing would have to be tangential to the actual topic of a given thread rather than the purpose of a thread).
I imagine it would require members to have a certain number of posts before they can view and participate in that subsection as well.


As for summarizing my views, I suppose my views are derived from the recent closing of various trade war threads where emotions have run a bit high causing them to be shut. It's been correctly pointed out that political threads often result in emotions being high and causing things to become a bit unruly.
My suggestion is that the forum can look at putting all of those threads in a dedicated subsection, and anyone who wants to participate can participate there and anyone who wants to ignore it can ignore it. I consider that to be an alternative to simply blocking political threads (and increasingly trade, tech related threads as well), given the increasing "geopoliticization of everything" that we've been seeing and the relevance and interest of that to much of the userbase.

This if course is from my experience lurking in some other forums where they have good functioning military discussions about their military of interest while also still having political threads with a fair amount of country bashing.
I think we've mostly been skirting around the real issue. It's not politics in general that this forum has a problem with, it's more specifically Country A vs Country B.

Most of the time it's China vs USA, and sometimes it's Russia vs USA, or India vs Pakistan, or Israel vs Palestine.

In a military forum, it's pretty much unavoidable to make such comparisons. Especially when hot conflicts flare up, such as the case with the Ukrainian and Syrian civil wars, it's inevitable that forumites supporting different sides will start arguing about their beliefs.

More recently, in the Trade War issue, some pro-Chinese forumites have expressed their anger at the US for its recent actions, and fellow pro-American forumites took offense at this, prompting Deino to step in as moderator.

I don't think we can ever avoid this. We all have our beliefs, and we're all passionate about them, and sometimes tempers flare up and people need to cool down. I don't mind some threads being closed for a while, so long as they will be re-opened when everyone has calmed down. As it is, I think we've tried to keep things civil in the three spin-off threads, but it did take the closing of the main thread for that to happen.

I've been here for, damn, 10 years now. I've seen my share of hot topics, and took part in my share of back-and-forth. I remember back when BD Popeye was still moderator and cracked down on any political discussion at all.

Personally, I don't think any changing of current rules are necessary. I think we just need more mods. I understand the frustration of newer members when hot threads get closed, I used to feel the same way. This forum is different from others, and the moderation here can take some used to. However, with the perspective of years, I feel this is really for the best. Our forums are not littered with pointless ideological bickering, and our members are knowledgeable in their respective domains. This is only possible thanks to the efforts of the moderation team.
let me ask you something:

do you think
#547 Dizasta1, 17 minutes ago
Not unless the "Almighty" America decides a "Regime Change" in Turkey, like they are in Venezuela, or Syria, or Yemen, or Sudan, or Libya, or Afghanistan, or Somalia, or Ukraine, or .... well ... you get the point, don't you ;)
should stay or get deleted?
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
I think we've mostly been skirting around the real issue. It's not politics in general that this forum has a problem with, it's more specifically Country A vs Country B.

Most of the time it's China vs USA, and sometimes it's Russia vs USA, or India vs Pakistan, or Israel vs Palestine.

In a military forum, it's pretty much unavoidable to make such comparisons. Especially when hot conflicts flare up, such as the case with the Ukrainian and Syrian civil wars, it's inevitable that forumites supporting different sides will start arguing about their beliefs.

More recently, in the Trade War issue, some pro-Chinese forumites have expressed their anger at the US for its recent actions, and fellow pro-American forumites took offense at this, prompting Deino to step in as moderator.

I don't think we can ever avoid this. We all have our beliefs, and we're all passionate about them, and sometimes tempers flare up and people need to cool down. I don't mind some threads being closed for a while, so long as they will be re-opened when everyone has calmed down. As it is, I think we've tried to keep things civil in the three spin-off threads, but it did take the closing of the main thread for that to happen.

I've been here for, damn, 10 years now. I've seen my share of hot topics, and took part in my share of back-and-forth. I remember back when BD Popeye was still moderator and cracked down on any political discussion at all.

Personally, I don't think any changing of current rules are necessary. I think we just need more mods. I understand the frustration of newer members when hot threads get closed, I used to feel the same way. This forum is different from others, and the moderation here can take some used to. However, with the perspective of years, I feel this is really for the best. Our forums are not littered with pointless ideological bickering, and our members are knowledgeable in their respective domains. This is only possible thanks to the efforts of the moderation team.
Well spoken, and to the point...
 

Phead128

Junior Member
Many people are upset the trade war thread is closed.

This type of censorship is what you expect from CCP, not a distinguished forum like SDF.

The conversation in the last 3 pages was civil (as civil as it can get given the topic), and when will it ever be opened again?
 

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