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Andy1974

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Macron assured Modi of
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's continued "commitment to the strengthening of India's strategic autonomy, including its industry and technology base, as part of a close relationship based on trust and mutual respect".

The statement from Macron's office said their shared approach was aimed at promoting "regional stability and the rule of law, while ruling out any form of hegemony".
Promotes “Strategic Autonomy”… FROM the US
”Rule of law” vs “Rules based order”
First mention of US hegemony?
The commitment to stability in the Indo-Pacific region would be under "the framework of the Europe-India relationship and European initiatives in the Indo-Pacific"
US Framework sidelined
Indian media have speculated that the cancellation of the deal could spark a French-Indian submarines agreement.

Paris has in the last years sought to tighten ties with India: In 2016 the two sides signed a multi-billion dollar deal for 36 French Rafale fighter jets for New Delhi.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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The real winners in all of this are ASPI ghouls, who most likely than not, earned themselves a juicy bonus
Like I said in my previous posts if the unthinkable and tragedy of war does occur between China and Australia happens I want the guys and gals from think tanks like ASPI to pay the ultimate price. I want their you know what in the pike. There has to be severe blowback or punishments for the kinds of warmongering b.s. these type of larvae have been spewing to the detriment of Australian citizens.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Promotes “Strategic Autonomy”… FROM the US
”Rule of law” vs “Rules based order”
First mention of US hegemony?

US Framework sidelined
For some reason I am not buying this French whining acting like they're prepared to abandon the American led anti-China framework when it's all about their French bacon losing out to the American burgers.

Also, part of me has this gut feeling that this brouhaha could be a ruse played by the Anglo-French alliance to gauge or expose China’s reactions and play post AUKUS announcements along with the French dramatic acting. Who's here going to predict that after Sleepy Joe talks to Monsieur Macaroni that everything will be smoothed over and the Franco-American alliance will be announced as stronger than ever. Vive La France!!
 

Andy1974

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For some reason I am not buying this French whining acting like they're prepared to abandon the American led anti-China framework when it's all about their French bacon losing out to the American burgers.

Also, part of me has this gut feeling that this brouhaha could be a ruse played by the Anglo-French alliance to gauge or expose China’s reactions and play post AUKUS announcements along with the French dramatic acting. Who's here going to predict that after Sleepy Joe talks to Monsieur Macaroni that everything will be smoothed over and the Franco-American alliance will be announced as stronger than ever. Vive La France!!
yeah, the louder they complain, the more the US will have to compensate them..

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Deino

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Ok guys … seems as if some hot-blooded Aussies, US and UK guys as well as some Chinese once again could calm down and stick to the simple RULE: NO POLITICS.

As such, as promised: thread closed and I will clean this mess … and anyone with too hast or provokative posts should prepare for two weeks vacation! You all know the rules and if you cannot hold your horses, you should better leave.

End of the debate.
 

Deino

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Guys. political discussions are not wanted, in fact against the rules - we discussed this to death already - and I clearly noted that I will close any thread and sentence temporary bans without prior warnings against anyone who exceeds certain limits.

Even more there is no need to hijack any closed thread or start news ones to continue with political bashing!


Take this as a strict warning and lesson for the next such issue!

Thread re-opened!
 

nlalyst

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There's a reason why Australia's population has been small relative to its size and will never grow too big. The limiting factor has been natural fresh water resources. Australia is a 'dry' continent.
Much of the land is desert or semi-arid.
What do you estimate is their upper limit?

According to this report, (2011) Australia consumes only 5% of its total renewable freshwater, compared to 46% for Italy:
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