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Overbom

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Therefore, it appears the CMC came to the conclusion that it was necessary for the PLAN to demonstrate directly to the Australian populace, largely by and through their media, China's capacity for gunboat diplomacy
Message fo New Zealand as well. There have been increasing noises about it joining AUKUS

China tried diplomacy and probably didn't succeed, and now resorted to this very clear message
 

zyklon

Junior Member
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I think this is probably what happened. After the first round of live firing exercise and seeing no response CMC went "playing dumb are you? Another live fire exercise tomorrow!"

I don't mean to speak ill of Canberra, but it appears that the Australian authorities had thus far or until (very, very) rather recently failed to realize that "two can play this game."

How do you expect things to play out, especially with DC in its current state under Trump?
 

Lethe

Captain
Not too sure what the Australian defence establishment or their senior officials are contemplating right now, but at least
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at this point:

Jacquie Lambie is one of the more recognisable faces in the Federal Parliament. Folks tend to like her even if they sometimes (or often) disagree with her because she doesn't come from the typical upper-class, private school-to-corporate lawyer pipeline that most politicians here do, and it shows. Before becoming a politician, she was an Army driver and MP. She's an independent Senator so there's no party apparatus pulling the strings. She calls things as she sees them, as in this case, and folks appreciate that authenticity.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
I don't mean to speak ill of Canberra, but it appears that the Australian authorities had thus far or until (very, very) rather recently failed to realize that "two can play this game."

How do you expect things to play out, especially with DC in its current state under Trump?

I only tangentially followed what can only be described as a total freak out by the Australians, but what I have seen of the responses range from the ridiculous to the downright pathetic.

They have been needlessly keen in going out of their way to needle and provoke China in the SCS and Taiwan Straits for little more reason than because they can and want to in order to score points domestically and abroad, and now a tiny PLAN flotilla does some gunnery practice in international waters hundreds of miles away from their coast and they are outraged and hysterically alarmed. Have a tiny bit of chill mate and stop acting like a total pansy why don’t you? It’s embarrassing.

If you are so desperately afraid of the big bad panda bear coming to your house to pay you a return visit, why did you keep going to shit in front of his house and in his garden in the first place?
 

lych470

Junior Member
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Aus Defence Minister keeps getting grilled about the 055s in their backyard:

'Take a deep breath': Marles advice on Chinese warships​


By Courtney Gould​

Defence Minister Richard Marles also held a press conference a short time ago in Geelong, where he was again pressed about the response to the Chinese navy's live-fire drill.
We learned in estimates yesterday that defence was alerted to the exercise from aviation authorities half and hour after it began. NZ defence force relayed a warning around an hour later.
Marles reiterated his defence of how Australia handled the situation when asked if the notification delay highlighted any inadequacies in the process.
"No, it's been an example of how we've been able to surveil this task group in an unprecedented way. We will closely watch the task group for as long as they are in the vicinity of Australia," he said.
Earlier, Marles argued the delay was fine because China was conducting a drill, and it "wasn't a real incident".
Speaking to reporters in Geelong, the defence minister says people need to "take a deep breath".
"Our touchstone has to be international law. The Chinese task group, as I am advised, is complying with international law.
"And why that matters is because there is actually a greater frequency of naval vessels closer to China than there are Chinese vessels close to Australia.
"We rely heavily on international law to be there and it matters that we are there because that is where our trade routes are. That’s why international law has to be our touchstone."
 

ACuriousPLAFan

Brigadier
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Aus Defence Minister keeps getting grilled about the 055s in their backyard:

'Take a deep breath': Marles advice on Chinese warships​

By Courtney Gould​

Defence Minister Richard Marles also held a press conference a short time ago in Geelong, where he was again pressed about the response to the Chinese navy's live-fire drill.
We learned in estimates yesterday that defence was alerted to the exercise from aviation authorities half and hour after it began. NZ defence force relayed a warning around an hour later.
Marles reiterated his defence of how Australia handled the situation when asked if the notification delay highlighted any inadequacies in the process.
"No, it's been an example of how we've been able to surveil this task group in an unprecedented way. We will closely watch the task group for as long as they are in the vicinity of Australia," he said.
Earlier, Marles argued the delay was fine because China was conducting a drill, and it "wasn't a real incident".
Speaking to reporters in Geelong, the defence minister says people need to "take a deep breath".
"Our touchstone has to be international law. The Chinese task group, as I am advised, is complying with international law.

Funny how the Ozzies reacted to the small PLAN warship flotilla right now is pretty much similar to how the Muricans reacted to that Wandering Balloon back in 2023.

Even funnier when you recall how both these two countries are often neck-deep into China's own business. Quite a coincidence, huh?
 
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