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sndef888

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All I can say is, it's incredible how powerful the US media/Murdoch/NGOs are

They have been pushing anti-china fake news toward the population ever since Covid started and now they have what they want, a scared Australian population and complete obedience to America.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
All I can say is, it's incredible how powerful the US media/Murdoch/NGOs are

They have been pushing anti-china fake news toward the population ever since Covid started and now they have what they want, a scared Australian population and complete obedience to America.
But NOT the rest of the world.
 

getready

Junior Member
All I can say is, it's incredible how powerful the US media/Murdoch/NGOs are

They have been pushing anti-china fake news toward the population ever since Covid started and now they have what they want, a scared Australian population and complete obedience to America.
Started before that, even before trumps trade war on China. Alot of warmongering, fear mongering on China. But yes they have stepped up since then after covid and after China retaliated to Australia anti China moves on behest of US orders
 

getready

Junior Member
China has done no such thing. Standing up for your interests is not "bullying", it's the bare minimum any government should do. The immediate cause of these problems is Donald Trump's policies, but the underlying cause is Anglo supremacism. Certain cultures feel that the world belongs to them (the so-called "rules-based order") and anyone who doesn't go along with that is "bullying".

And there's nothing new about AUKUS. It's been in effect in one form or another ever since Anglo colonization of China's near abroad. This was fated centuries ago.
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Way back ago Former Singapore pm Goh, have pointed put Australia is out of place with its anglo centric population in Asia.

Way way back ago, Founding father of Singapore, LKY called it white trash of Asia, this was before China economic miracle helped to improve Australia economy.
 

weig2000

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The New York Times weighs in on AUKUS with an opinion piece. When the instant gratification is gone, cooler heads start to ponder the bigger and longer ramifications.

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hashtagpls

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Way back ago Former Singapore pm Goh, have pointed put Australia is out of place with its anglo centric population in Asia.

Way way back ago, Founding father of Singapore, LKY called it white trash of Asia, this was before China economic miracle helped to improve Australia economy.
It's not that Australia "has too many whites", it's that Australia has historically and currently behaves as a white supremacist nation and society that considers itself above Asians; why on earth would an Asian organisation accept such a member?

Considering the behaviour and attitudes of Australian politicians these past few years, LKY calling them white trash is far too generous.
 

Lethe

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Hugh White, Professor of Strategic Studies at Australian National University and one of the more thoughtful and credible voices out there on Australian strategic matters,
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We in Australia simply cannot plan our future on the assumption that the US will always be there for us, no matter how many nuclear subs we buy. And if the US, by miscalculation, does find itself at war with China, we absolutely cannot assume that it would win. That must, surely, enter our calculations about whether we commit ourselves to fighting alongside America. And yet that is what we are increasingly doing.

What should we do instead? First, we should recognise, as our neighbours in South-East Asia do, that confronting and containing China won’t work. Whether we like it or not, we are going to have to live with China’s power and growing influence. That doesn’t mean doing whatever China says, but it does mean stepping back from Washington’s policy of trying to push back China by threatening war. Second, we should be building forces to defend ourselves without relying on the US, rather than deepening our dependency in an ally that, for all its tough talk, is becoming less and less credible. That means buying submarines and other systems that work cost-effectively to defend ourselves, not serve our allies – which means buying conventional rather than nuclear submarines.

And third, we should step back and think about our long-term future as a country. Thirty years ago Bob Hawke and Paul Keating said Australia had no choice but to stop looking for our security from Asia and start looking for it in Asia. That remains true, and it is the very opposite of turning back the clock to the days of Robert Menzies and his two Anglo-Saxon “great and powerful friends”. But that is exactly what Morrison has done this week. He has tied Australia to a deal that undermines our sovereign capabilities, overspends on hardware we can barely be confident of operating, and drags us closer to the front line of a war we may have no interest in fighting.
 

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