Artificial Intelligence thread

Michael90

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What kind of security are you talking about?

Political speech security? Yeah, they do care a lot about AI not saying stuff about Chinese politics. And they do control for that heavily.


But cyber security? Thats BS. If AI can find find vulnerabilities in code, it can also fix it. Why would you want to limit power of AI if it can help you find bugs?

Again, as I said, US is overhyping AI as some magical tech and trying portray them being on top once again.

China doesn't believe in that and is fine to diffuse AI technology
Agree, I fail to understand why some people want to believe otherwise . Seems it just soothes their mind to want to believe that the Chinese government is hiding a top secret super advanced AI model that nobody has access to . lol. Guess makes some feel better .
chinas AI model is different from the US, I might actually be the US government will want to do something like that with AI , not China
 

iewgnem

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What kind of security are you talking about?

Political speech security? Yeah, they do care a lot about AI not saying stuff about Chinese politics. And they do control for that heavily.


But cyber security? Thats BS. If AI can find find vulnerabilities in code, it can also fix it. Why would you want to limit power of AI if it can help you find bugs?

Again, as I said, US is overhyping AI as some magical tech and trying portray them being on top once again.

China doesn't believe in that and is fine to diffuse AI technology
I'm all in agreement about China being benovolent and sharing frontier AI with the world, but just like Chinese satellites arent really all for crop health monitoring, and MSS doesnt only do desk jobs in Beijing, China is neither innocent nor have fantasies about nature of geopolitics.

Releasing SOTA models open weight will, at the minimum, allow American institutions to test their defenses against Chinese cyberattacks and their backdoors against discovery by Chinese defenders, and do everything behind an air gap by self hosting it on their datacenters.

So at the very least, just for defense, Beijing will need an AI tool thats not accessable to advasaries and cant be pre-neutralized by said adversary in a future attack.

Whatever model Beijing is using to secure its own code base, and Beijing is 100% using these tools to do so, its not going to be a model that US can study and test against.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Not necessary, in fact is likely that could add additional vulnerabilities that to the shear code size humans will overlook them.
it could require human supervision to make sure is patched properly. These models are NOT conscious, they don't have nuance. They just mimic human language and they do it really well

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They've always been stochastic parrots. Now "agents" are stochastic parrots with root and a credit card.
 
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