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HighGround

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Very brave move by the court to protect labour rights in this case. We will see how this court ruling affects future cases where human workers get replaced more and more by automation in general. China does not have a case law legal system but precedents are still referred to in courts of law in China.
Yeah, I don't agree with this, but I doubt it'll be a blanket ban. I trust China to figure out to properly figure out the correct "line" to take here.

AI will displace a lot of labor, that's unavoidable. It's already happening with junior developers. The correct course of action is managing the impact and reallocating labor towards more productive uses.
 

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Kevin Wamsley's unusually long video on AI.

He described his personal day-to-day experience on application of AI in China, specifically on translation and within the architecture/construction sector, addressing the benefits as well as the short comings. He talked about how those shortcomings also exist in American AIs but are essentially ignored, how scammy CEOs in Silicon Valley have no clues on how their own technologies work. He finally talked how American AIs are doomed, and that Jensen Huang is basically the only one seeing the writings on the wall that China is owning the entire technology stack.

 

siegecrossbow

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I guess they weighed it against the benefits of mass AI implementation, which could have helped China advance its technological edge. It's not too useful if you suffer from mass unemployment riots, but I am concerned for the negative consequences in the tech race that will determine the next globally dominant power. I also wonder how effective it will be. From what see, if your company considers you dead weight and wants you gone, they'll find a way.
That will hurt corporate profits and could give rise to inefficiencies; for example, if AI does cheaper and faster what junior developer does and a company is obliged to keep the junior, the company loses profits it would otherwise earn. But china is a socialist country, so CCP sticks to socialism.

Instead of getting rid of junior developers altogether, why not let them join on as agentic AI developers instead? What happens when the seniors all retire (which can be as early as the 30s in the Chinese tech market) and there are no more grunts manning the ship? Has any of the Western tech companies considered this, or is 5-10 years too far away from next quarter’s earnings report???
 

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ModelBest/面壁智能 has come out with their latest OpenBMB/MiniCPM-o 4.5 model for consumer devices. It uses 9B parameters and integrates Qwen3-8B with Whisper, sigLIP and audio output model.

Rockchip is working with the to put this edge model for smart cockpit in its AI Box product.
 

Michael90

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what are the chances of some businesses closing down, just to reopen again without the employees?
Exactly, this is the most stupid rule/law to have implemented . lol. Private companies will always find ways to be more productive and maximise their efficiency and growth. A government mandate will never stop that . Else threat company will just get left behind and die. So this law is stupid and useless. The thing is nobody can stop change, if you want to go against change then you will simple get left behind while others race ahead, full stop . They should’ve finding ways to train new employees in AI skill and use and exapanding employment in AI fuel that is coming. It’s like saying Factories should stop automation and hire Chinese labour . lol. Some things just can’t be changed , people should just get used to the new normal , it will happen whether we like it or not to be honest.
 

meedicx

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from someone that actually uses Kimi 2.6 for real work & business. This is the kind of stuff people should listen to about certain models instead of a disgruntled former ByteDance employee. I use K2.6 for my normal programming and it's great.


my experience with K2.6 is that it pretty much does everything I need it to do. The only issue is that since I'm using the free online version, it often runs out of token when I request it to do complex tasks. I guess I need to start paying money.

Cloudflare is also using Kimi K2.6 with OpenCode
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Open weight models are increasingly getting "good enough". Also, open weight models have a natural advantage that can absolutely disrupt Anthropic in the enterprise. If an enterprise has a large code base, you can't fit all of it in the context, so the harness/RAG will have to pick and choose, leading to poor experiences like the one below.
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Refining a DeepSeek model on your own code bakes the code base directly in the weights, avoiding context scaling issues and may end up performing better than the most expensive OAI or Claude models.
And just coincidentally, Ascend is marketing CPT support
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