One of the chief officers in Manus got baited into returning to China for a conference and is being held as we speak.
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DeepSeek V3 series last year have always supported Ascend for inference. Huawei's CloudMatrix 384 announcement last year heavily marketed how many TPS it could run R1. If you look at the github of major Chinese LLMs like qwen or GLM, they support multiple Chinese ai cards including Ascend.
DeepSeek V4 used TileLang for all its kernels so in theory can support any chinese AI chip with TileLang support. The Ascend CANN team worked closely with DeepSeek so their hardware runs V4 faster and more efficiently for both training and inference.
From their public announcement, Atlas A3 (aka. CloudMatrix, uses last gen Ascend chips) supports DeepSeek V4-flash continuous pretraining (CPT) with high throughput, so in theory it could also be used for the full pretraining since the code is the same. Some rumors say flash was trained using Ascend. No info on pro, but will probably need the next generation 950DT supernode to support training at that size.
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Hangzhou has 56 EFLOPS of AI compute and has set goals for itself in future AI industry development.
I think they know they can’t do anything anymore . It’s too little too late. I think it’s more of a symbolic gesture to dissuade other Chinese AI startups/companies from doing the same .
im actually surprised China had no laws in place to review any takeover of her high tech companies in critical emerging fields like AI . It’s actually shocking that their regulators had been sleeping on the wheel. This will be unthinkable in the US or west today. They have long set laws to review any takeover bid for their tech companies since 2017s upwards to discourage Chinese takeovers of their tech companies actually.
I don’t understand why the CCP is now blocking the founders from travelling . They did nothing wrong. There was no law in China that said they couldn’t do that. You can’t just wake up and retroactively apply rules to others (like India infamous tax rules . lol ).
The transaction has become illegal. Specifically, Meta is not allowed to use the assets, IP included, obtained from the failed merger. If Meta and Manus want to ignore the ban and carry on still, there will be lawsuits waiting for the companies and their C-suites. It's now up to them. They can surely try to dodge the long arm of Chinese laws.
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nope. China have many cards to play.
Meta earned a lot from mainland China despite zero presence in the country.
If Zuckerberg openly repents and beats all the other contestants then Daddy Xi may reconsider and allow for shared custody of Manus.
20% of metas Chinas ad revenue came from scams/peonography? Lool is this for real? If true then I don’t think anybody will miss that. lol
my piece on the above chart. Key is to not just look at compute. for the longest time, Nvidia at same TFLOPS actually gave greater throughput than Chinese competitors. Now, with this hybrid MXFP8/MXFP4 + deep integration, Ascend may have finally caught up or surpassed Nvidia in this throughput/TFLOPS metric
Not bad at all.