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Eventine

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As far as I know, the promoters include: 1. Local governments; 2. Cloud service providers; 3. Those selling OpenClaw tutorials; 4. Crypto speculators trying to ride the wave.

Even the central government seems powerless to help.
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I have to wonder if there might also be an element of Western corporate and/or intelligence involvement, considering it is a Western open source framework. Mind you, I don't think they had any initial involvement in its development, but by now the intelligence agencies have surely noticed its wide adoption in China; so I'd bet on it being explored as a vector of infiltration, which rapid, uncontrolled adoption without proper security auditing would allow.

It is also an unfortunate testament to the state of the open source software community in China, where the flow of open source framework adoption is overwhelmingly West -> China and not China -> West (although for models it is the reverse due to the West shooting itself in the foot in regards to open models).
 
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GulfLander said:
who started promoting/hyping it in CN anyway?
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Like many things, these tools often are known and widely used long before the general public hears of them. And OpenClaw is really just the latest iteration of an orchestration solution that have been around for decades.
 
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Google is in discussions with Envicool and other suppliers of cooling systems for data centers.

BEIJING/SINGAPORE, March 17 (Reuters) - Alphabet's Google
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is in talks with Envicool
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and other Chinese firms about buying liquid cooling equipment for data centres, according to people with knowledge of a visit to China ‌by one of the U.S. firm's procurement teams. Liquid cooling systems - which circulate water or other liquid over or around equipment - have become critical in AI data centers as the high-density computing generates more heat than a traditional air cooling system can handle.

The global market for AI server liquid cooling systems is projected to surge to more than $17 billion in 2026 from $8.9 billion last year, driven by demand from Nvidia
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and cloud providers deploying custom AI chips, according to a JPMorgan report. Envicool, founded in 2005 with a market value of 98 billion yuan ($14 billion), saw revenue surge 40% during the ‌first nine ⁠months of the year. At a recent industry event, it showcased a coolant distribution unit (CDU), a critical component of liquid cooling systems that distributes coolant to server racks, built to Google's specifications. Envicool expects liquid cooling revenue to grow on a quarterly basis this year with a pipeline that includes potential orders from Google for its fifth-generation CDUs and other components, according to a Goldman Sachs report following an analyst call with the company this month.
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Looks like Manus executives are under pressure, including exit bans. While there is some value in closing off the path they took to deter future companies from doing the same, Manus itself seems of little value. Especially now that OpenClaw spinoffs are everywhere.

The Chinese government is taking actions to penalize people linked to Meta’s $2 billion
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, a Singapore artificial intelligence start-up with Chinese roots, in an apparent effort to discourage Chinese A.I. executives from moving businesses offshore, two people with knowledge of the matter said. Officials at China’s National Development and Reform Commission, a high-level ministry that oversees economic planning including A.I., called in Meta and Manus executives for a meeting late last week to express concerns about the deal, which was announced in December, said the people, who declined to be named publicly in order to discuss sensitive issues.

The scope of the Chinese government’s actions remains unclear but appears to include an effort to restrict Manus executives from departing China for Singapore, one of the people said. Beijing has issued exit bans in the past for corporate executives who were under scrutiny.
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Wrought said:
Looks like Manus executives are under pressure, including exit bans. While there is some value in closing off the path they took to deter future companies from doing the same, Manus itself seems of little value. Especially now that OpenClaw spinoffs are everywhere.



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I can't believe Manus executives had the gall to go back to China after what they pulled. This was foreseeable from a mile away.
 
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