Artificial Intelligence thread

Michael90

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Chinese models have now overtaken US ones on openrouter
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Even surprised US closed paid models were so dominant compared to Chinese open sourced mostly free/cheap models. I don’t get why many people favored US MODELS so much . Afterall , who wouldn’t prefer something that’s almost free compared to something you have to pay a lot for?
 

tokenanalyst

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Im
Even surprised US closed paid models were so dominant compared to Chinese open sourced mostly free/cheap models. I don’t get why many people favored US MODELS so much . Afterall , who wouldn’t prefer something that’s almost free compared to something you have to pay a lot for?
Is not that open router is free. Even a company running the local models in their own AI servers is expending money in electricity and expensive depreciating hardware. The problem is if the thing you want to replace is costing more than the thing you are replacing there is not point on it. What companies seen to be doing is offloading tasks to less expensive models.

Most Chinese models are MoE and they are made to run more efficient while US models are dense on purpose to keep an "IQ" edge against non US MoE models but that is coming an a increasing price tag that cannot be subsidize forever if these companies want to go public.

What is interesting is that this seem to be an unexpected blowback of US export controls. I said back then that Chinese models were going to focus on efficiency and architecture rather than brute computational power. My guess if that if Chinese companies had access to unrestricted Nvidia GPUs they would had gone dense and they would cost as much as US models.
 
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