Ancient Military that you prefer, and favorite generals in history.

Between most ancient civilization, who's military do you like the best?

Rome
Carthage
Greece (Sparta, Athens, or Other.)
Macedon
Persia
Selucid Empire
Egypt
Numidia
Armenia
China (Any of the provinces, just specify which one.)
Gaul
Germania
Other (Name one you prefer that I forgot or just didn't list.)

I prefer Rome and Macedon. I have a slight preference for Macedon.

And I suppose you can name your favorite military theorists, strategists, or actual commanders. (Or who you think the best of all time.)

You can just name your favorite, but I think the best of all time are...

1. Alexander the Great. Cliche, but I really think he was one of the best.
2. Napoleon. Also Cliche, but again, I think he was up there too.
3. Hannibal Barca. Yet another cliche, but a less heard one. (IMO.) He almost beat Rome though, so you have to give him some credit.
4. George Washington. Brilliant man. Although not specifically gifted at strategy, he was loved by his men.
5. Robert E. Lee and Ulysseus S. Grant. A tie between them. Never really thought one was better than the other.
6. Stonewall Jackson. Genius commander, up until Chancellorsville that is.
7. Julius Caesar. Ripped Gaul a new one. He ripped the them the old one too. Fun fact: He fired all his personal body guards the day before he was killed.
8. Frederick the Great. His idea that soldiers had to fear their officers was stupid however, which is why he's lower on the list.
9. William the Conqueror. Won at Hastings after just fighting at Stamford Bridge. Although he was a cruel ruler, he wasn't as bad as Vlad The Impaler at least.
10. Sun Tzu. Just filler, but I'm told the guy was nearly as good as Alexander. If I read more on his stuff, he may get bumped up to number 3.

Wrong guy. Sun Tzu is the wrong Chinese one, but Sun Tzu will stay. If I remember the name of the right one, William is getting bumped from the list.

why have to pick one of the chinese provinces when china was an empire since 200bc???
i pick china as a whole


for military strategist i would pick
sun tzu
sun bing
cao cao
yue fei
genghis khan
alexander
charlemagne
hannibal

dude, wheres Saladin or richard the lionhart? otto von bismark? cortez? The worlds greaters conquerors number far too many to compress inot a list of ten.

MIGleader said:

dude, wheres Saladin or richard the lionhart? otto von bismark? cortez? The worlds greaters conquerors number far too many to compress inot a list of ten.

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I believe I said, "You can choose your favorite, but I think the best of all time are." Otto von Bismarck was a politician. Bismark "conquered" no one. He unified Germany. A great general/commander/strategist isn't just a conqueror. (Washington, Lee, Stonewall.) Try Moltke for Prussia, and not Otto. (Moltke was his genius strategist.) By the way, Frederick the Great was Prussian and was a military genius. If you noticed, PiSigma made his own list of leaders. Anyway Cortez owned a bunch of Aztecs. Wow, big deal. He had guns, and horses. And cannons. They were SCARED. He had ARMOR. He showed skill, yes, but he had a huge technological and psychological advantage. They thought Cortez was a god. Wow, I guess that makes him really good, right?

Saladin I respect, but he never actually fought outside of his own territory. He fought Christian Knights, who were fighting in heat, and sand. And he still lost to Lionheart with superior numbers. His troops was designed to fight in that condition, and the Christians weren't. He was considered for the list, but I like William the Conqueror slightly better. Finally, Richard the Lionheart. Ironically, he fought Saladin, so you respect the commanders of both sides. Lionheart was a smart because he outwitted Saladin with a smaller force. He's worth being on a top 20 list, I've never considered him top 10 material. I don't specifically like him anyway. I'm just asking for favorites, but I will point out 2 are actually good, 1 isn't worth a lot of recognition, and one was a politician.

My top 3-To be expanded, edited and revised.

1. Ghengis Khan-What can you say? He almost never lost a battle.
2. Mao-When you get knocked down, you gotta get right back up.
3. Marshall Zhukov-I think that is the right spelling. Anyway, he was the most successful modern commander. The unsung hero of WWII. He lost a few, but he won the biggest battles of all time, in the biggest war of all time, the titanic struggle of the dictators on the Eastern Front.

The Selucid Empire was ablend of the Eastern and Western methods of war, which is why I like it. It didn't last long enough to show what It could do.

Wrong guy. Sun Tzu is the wrong Chinese one, but Sun Tzu will stay. If I remember the name of the right one,

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Zhuge Liang?
He sure makes my list.

And the others in my mind were pretty much all said already.

FriedRiceNSpice said:

Zhuge Liang?
He sure makes my list.

And the others in my mind were pretty much all said already.

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Isn't he the guy who invented steamed buns?

BrotherofSnake said:

Isn't he the guy who invented steamed buns?

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Yes. Also the repeating crossbow and Kunming Lantern.

Well, for the grestest military leader of all-time

1. Alexander the Great, genius commander, I really think that he deserve this place
2. Generalfeldmar Erwin Rommel, the last of the knight, feared and respected by his ennemy, loved by his men, he was a great commander.
3. Sun Tzu, no need to explain I think
4. Hannibal Barca, he has to deal with illness, no reinforcement and low supply in a rough campaign in Italy, he was really good, the only way that Rome find to stop him from invading Italy was to attack Spain and Carthage
5. General Georges Smith Patton Jr. very known general of WWII, he has an outstanding vision of the battlefied and has a lot of imagination mind for battleplan
6. Napoleon Bonaparte, the 1st leader to use the indirect approach with "modern" troops
7. Admiral Yamamoto and Nitmitz, noth are tied...
8. Julius Gaius and Marius Caesar, both were great military leader, Julius followed the path of his uncle Marius.
9. Douglas McArthur
10. I don't know, there's so many great military leader...

for me saldin will be the best general that i admire the most.
defending n taking back palestine really though one.