American UFO disclosures

Abominable said:

Anyone following this? It possibly one of the most bizarre things going on right now.

Over the past few years the US government have been releasing videos showing unidentified craft that have been caught by the military. They all seem to be low grade, some even recorded on iPhones rather than actual military equipment.

Then you've got former naval pilots who should be under NDAs talking about how they've seen and encountered craft performing manoeuvers that would be impossible with current aircraft technology. We're talking ascending and descending thousands of metres in seconds, moving in multiple directions with no apparent loss in momentum. No noise,no visible form of propulsion.

Last year Trump signed a COVID relief bill which for some reason included a bill that the Pentagon must release information it held on UFOs. Since that was announced, these videos and accounts have become more and more common, even hitting mainstream news.

The other night Obama went on TV and pretty much confirmed it.

The claim seems to be that there are UFOs. Neocons like Marco Rubio seem to be hinting they may be from enemy nations, but anyone with basic knowledge of Russian or Chinese military aviation would know that is impossible.

Whats the Russian/Chinese take on this? Because I have no clue...

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Mohsin77 said:

I used to be very anti-UFO my entire life, until I saw Commander Fravor's interviews on different podcasts. I tired pretty hard to detect BS, but couldn't. That guy seems 100% legit to me. Now assuming this wasn't an elaborate hoax by everyone involved in that intercept, that UFO's signature was captured in 3 different parts of the EM spectrum (radar, infrared, visual). That's strong empirical evidence. There's basically zero chance that all involved pilots and systems were hallucinating and malfunctioning at the same time. And the fact that the thing maneuvered with the aircraft and then also had knowledge of their CAP points, there's basically no chance of it being some kind of atmospheric anomaly either. Nor is it any human technology, no way. It was literally defying gravity. We don't know how to do that... this isn't an engineering issue, it's a fundamental physics issue.

With that said, there are a lot of other claims by other sources that I still don't buy, like the whole Roswell crash/recovery stuff. These UFOs are operating beyond known physics. They're not just gonna randomly "crash" on Earth. That makes no sense to me. How do you travel millions of light years defying inertial constraints just to crash in New Mexico?! All the crash stories are (most likely) total BS. These things aren't gonna puncture a tire or run out of engine oil. And even if they did crash, humans won't be getting anywhere near them (I'm sure their SAR protocols are much better then ours.) So there's still a lot of BS in the UFO stuff, but there's also seriously compelling testimonies and evidence recorded by actual Navy and Air Force pilots that has come out.

What really shouldn't surprise anyone though is the complete lack of interest by the physics community. Just look at what's happening with the so-called 'Axis of Evil' discovery in Cosmology (which I'm sure none of you have even heard of, even though it should be on the front-pages of every newspaper in the world.) Most physicists never want to talk about anything related to Fine-Tuning because it contradicts their Western dogmatic narrative. And if there are actual UFOs visiting Earth, that's also kind of like a fine-tuning issue. As soon as Earth starts to look "special" in any way, the physics community just puts blinders on and pretends they see nothing.

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Phead128 said:

Carefully orchestrated psyops to convince the public of the necessity to find U.S. Space Force because screaming China Bad simply isn't enough, you have to do a Sputnik 2.0 against imaginary space aliens.

Think about it, why would Aliens visit Virginia restricted airspace but not China or India which has vast majority of world population. As if the Anglos somehow are special and only ones who know about this stuff.

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Han Patriot said:

I am a science based person, I only believe what is captured scientifically, for decades there wasn't any empirical evidence to detect the speed, trajectory, IR signatures and HD videos. Now we have multiple sensors capturing and sensing their physical attributes. AATIP knew their speed, whether they had exhaust signatures, their maneuverability, etc. These were coupled with physical witness accounts by trained pilots, some even with cellphone photos next to the object from a war plane.

If anyone knows physics, we can't make a pyramid float nor a sphere fly without some reactive motion. and we can't get them to go zig zag, that's against the law of physics we know.

I am not saying they are definitely aliens, but the fact is US government denies these crafts are theirs, if it was theirs they could have just kept quiet, we are talking about occurrences as diverse as areas from tropical villages to the prairies.

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Mohsin77 said:

I used to be very anti-UFO my entire life, until I saw Commander Fravor's interviews on different podcasts. I tired pretty hard to detect BS, but couldn't. That guy seems 100% legit to me. Now assuming this wasn't an elaborate hoax by everyone involved in that intercept, that UFO's signature was captured in 3 different parts of the EM spectrum (radar, infrared, visual). That's strong empirical evidence. There's basically zero chance that all involved pilots and systems were hallucinating and malfunctioning at the same time. And the fact that the thing maneuvered with the aircraft and then also had knowledge of their CAP points, there's basically no chance of it being some kind of atmospheric anomaly either. Nor is it any human technology, no way. It was literally defying gravity. We don't know how to do that... this isn't an engineering issue, it's a fundamental physics issue.

With that said, there are a lot of other claims by other sources that I still don't buy, like the whole Roswell crash/recovery stuff. These UFOs are operating beyond known physics. They're not just gonna randomly "crash" on Earth. That makes no sense to me. How do you travel millions of light years defying inertial constraints just to crash in New Mexico?! All the crash stories are (most likely) total BS. These things aren't gonna puncture a tire or run out of engine oil. And even if they did crash, humans won't be getting anywhere near them (I'm sure their SAR protocols are much better then ours.) So there's still a lot of BS in the UFO stuff, but there's also seriously compelling testimonies and evidence recorded by actual Navy and Air Force pilots that has come out.

What really shouldn't surprise anyone though is the complete lack of interest by the physics community. Just look at what's happening with the so-called 'Axis of Evil' discovery in Cosmology (which I'm sure none of you have even heard of, even though it should be on the front-pages of every newspaper in the world.) Most physicists never want to talk about anything related to Fine-Tuning because it contradicts their Western dogmatic narrative. And if there are actual UFOs visiting Earth, that's also kind of like a fine-tuning issue. As soon as Earth starts to look "special" in any way, the physics community just puts blinders on and pretends they see nothing.

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t2contra said:

Some skunk work projects must be going on. Before the F-117 made its appearance, there were continuous reports of UFOs too. But, of course, it could be other companies than LM. After all, the F-22 has ceased production, the F-35 is a pain in the neck and there are new technologies to be fielded. They have to hush everything up.

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HybridHypothesis said:

so you made a new account just to post UFO rumors.

"Public pressure" is a delusional myth, the gov doesnt need to respond to a bunch of obscure cranks.

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