American Economics Thread

9dashline

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The stock market in the US is bonkers. Totally detached from the reality
Everyone is HODLing on to their stonks while the shopping aisles are empty.... and santa claus got covid.... foregoing spending to "invest" it in the biggest ponzi of humanity meanwhile allowing the elite to get out from under before it all collapse supernova style vaporizing faster than a Chinese hypersonic orbital missile...

I almost feel sorry for all the bitcoin and dogecoin millionaires thinking they are going to ride the generational wealth to the American dream....
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Everyone is HODLing on to their stonks while the shopping aisles are empty.... and santa claus got covid.... foregoing spending to "invest" it in the biggest ponzi of humanity meanwhile allowing the elite to get out from under before it all collapse supernova style vaporizing faster than a Chinese hypersonic orbital missile...

I almost feel sorry for all the bitcoin and dogecoin millionaires thinking they are going to ride the generational wealth to the American dream....
Nobody is withholding spending to invest. It is that the investment/ruling classes and spending/working classes in the US are as separate as Brahmins and Dalits in India. Half of Americans don't even have a few hundred USD in the bank, where are they investing?

Once this becomes clear then the bifurcation in the markets becomes clear.
 

9dashline

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Nobody is withholding spending to invest. It is that the investment/ruling classes and spending/working classes in the US are as separate as Brahmins and Dalits in India. Half of Americans don't even have a few hundred USD in the bank, where are they investing?

Once this becomes clear then the bifurcation in the markets becomes clear.

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‘I just became a dogecoin millionaire’: This 33-year-old invested his savings in the meme cryptocurrency with inspiration from Elon Musk

“I was up all night staring at my screen,” Contessoto, 33, tells CNBC

And like many holders of dogecoin, “a reason why I put my savings into dogecoin is Elon Musk,” who has repeatedly tweeted about the cryptocurrency.

Above all, Contessoto is very bullish on dogecoin’s growth, and thought that it could help him build “generational wealth” to pass on to his future family. “I grew up really poor,” he says, “so this is a huge deal for me.”

Contessoto (who works at a music company in Los Angeles) says he didn’t have disposable income to buy dogecoin, so he took a huge risk. Contessoto not only used all his savings, but he also sold all the stock he owned, including shares of Tesla and Uber, and invested on margin by borrowing money from Robinhood via the app, he says.

“My plan is, once I hit $10 million, then I’ll take out 10%,” he says. In his opinion, “this stuff is going to continue to grow.”
 

Overbom

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says he didn’t have disposable income to buy dogecoin, so he took a huge risk. Contessoto not only used all his savings, but he also sold all the stock he owned, including shares of Tesla and Uber, and invested on margin by borrowing money from Robinhood via the app, he says.
Wow! This is so so stupid. In case anyone wants to do something similar, please don't.

Dont forget the eternal rule, behind every "successful" example, there are 1000s of failed experiments
 

FairAndUnbiased

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‘I just became a dogecoin millionaire’: This 33-year-old invested his savings in the meme cryptocurrency with inspiration from Elon Musk

“I was up all night staring at my screen,” Contessoto, 33, tells CNBC

And like many holders of dogecoin, “a reason why I put my savings into dogecoin is Elon Musk,” who has repeatedly tweeted about the cryptocurrency.

Above all, Contessoto is very bullish on dogecoin’s growth, and thought that it could help him build “generational wealth” to pass on to his future family. “I grew up really poor,” he says, “so this is a huge deal for me.”

Contessoto (who works at a music company in Los Angeles) says he didn’t have disposable income to buy dogecoin, so he took a huge risk. Contessoto not only used all his savings, but he also sold all the stock he owned, including shares of Tesla and Uber, and invested on margin by borrowing money from Robinhood via the app, he says.

“My plan is, once I hit $10 million, then I’ll take out 10%,” he says. In his opinion, “this stuff is going to continue to grow.”
This is the dumbest financial move I've ever seen. He got lucky he's not living in a box behind a dumpster right now and wherher that continues to hold remains to be seen.
 

Tam

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Gold is indeed stored energy, it was created in the intense explosion of star that went supernova... atomic bond energy like chemical bond energy is still stored energy. Try creating gold in a particule accelerator and see how many ounces of gold you can fetch from bitcoins....

Dont confuse bitcoin with blockchain. Just like myspace was A social networking service that used TCP/IP protocol, it was not The social networking service and did not represent all uses of Internet, BGP, OSI layers etc....

Likwise bitcoin is A form of virtual digital cryptocurrency that uses the blockchain mechanisms... anyone can create their own digital currency, and it may or may not need to use blockchain technology, and even digital currencies that do use blockchain do not necessarily require high energy intensive "mining" process for more coins...many are initialized with all coins from the getgo

Im all for digitalizing money, to make money "software defined" and with programmatic API etc... this is already what Chinese gov is doing...

But bitcoin itself is going the way of xanga, secondlife, livejournal, friendster, orkut, myspace and google wave/buzz/plus. and the dodo bird

You cannot release energy from gold as gold is not fissionable by any technology known to Man. In this sense, Uranium and Thorium is more valuable. Every heavy and metal element is created from within a star. If you can release energy from gold you might as well release energy from a far more common metal like lead. If you want to say gold is stored energy, then every element is also stored energy.

Through fusion you can also release more energy, and for that you might as well use hydrogen. The act of releasing energy through fusion or even antimatter reaction does not make energy production valuable, it makes energy production so plentiful it becomes less valuable through excess surplus.

Speaking of battery and capacitance, Lithium will be the next gold rush until a new battery technology will arrive, perhaps Carbon and Sodium. Or even Iron through Iron Salt battery.

Or it can be said that industrial, rare earth, and metals used with batteries (lithium, cobalt, nickel), electric motors (neodymium, samarium) and electronics (gallium, indium) will generally be more valuable in thie next age.
 
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