Aircraft Carriers III

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Issues to work out with new designs.

and while often referred to as the "head" or "john", a lot of sailors refer to it as the "shotter", possibly the most important piece of equipment on any naval vessel, although some have been known to use a bucket... lol.

"as in? I've spent more time on the "shotter", than that so and so SOB has spent on his whole duty assignment aboard ship"

So BD, have you ever made a similar statement about some other so and so??? truth here brother???
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
man what do you mean by this:

please give me examples of what "would be violated" by pulling back

Jura, I cannot name names or give full detail but I know the US has had treaties thru NATO and SEATO(Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) to have ships deployed in certain areas for certain times...well at least we use to. If I knew more details I'd let you know.

So BD, have you ever made a similar statement about some other so and so??? truth here brother???

Nope. I don't consider too much what others think of me. Of course I'm human from time to time I do. I know I have in this forum. Well now wait a minute..when I was stationed in the Philippines we had a CPO that spent an inordinate amount of time in the head. Mostly what he did in there was look at porn magazines. Yep..in the Philippines:oops:...The man died when he was 41 of acute alcohol poisoning.
 
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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
I know the US has had treaties thru NATO and SEATO(Southeast Asia Treaty Organization)

I remember things long past. I remember being in indoctrination class aboard John F Kennedy in April 1972 and the officer in charge (OIC) explaining that there was a treaty with NATO requiring the US to keep two carriers in the MED at all times. This went on for years..into the late 70s or early 80s. Then who knows? Not me. That changed more than likely because of the oil crisis that have risen up from time to time in the last 40 years...and aboard Midway in a similar indoctrination class in August 1973 the OIC stated there was some sort of agreement with SEATO nations that the USN keep one carrier in the western Pacific at all times...There has been a carrier homeported in Yokosuka Japan since October 1973. Midway, Independence, Kitty Hawk, George Washington & Ronald Reagan.

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 19, 2020) Lt. Scott "Gameday" Gallagher lands an F/A-18F Super Hornet, attached to "Blue Blasters" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 34, for the 1,000th trap on USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) flight deck during flight operations. Ford is currently underway conducting its flight deck and combat air traffic control center certifications. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Gary Prill)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 19, 2020) Sailors assigned to USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) air department conduct flight operations with an F/A-18E Hornet, attached to "Ragin' Bulls" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 37, on Ford's flight deck. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary Melvin)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 17, 2020) Sailors assigned to air departments crash and salvage team stand watch on USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) flight deck. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Riley McDowell)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 17, 2020) A Sailor assigned to USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) crash and salvage team looks on as a MH-60S Sea Hawk helicopter, assigned to the "Tridents" of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 9 prepares to take off from the ship's flight deck. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Riley McDowell)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 19, 2020) Sailors assigned to USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) air department taxi an MH-60S Sea Hawk helicopter, assigned to the "Tridents" of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 9, on USS Gerald R. Ford's (CVN 78) flight deck during flight operations.(U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary Melvin)
 

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From German newspaper today, is that true: "When asked if it was time to evacuate the aircraft carrier, Esper said, 'I don't think we are at this point.' Reuters reported on Tuesday a letter from Captain Brett Crozier demanding that the sailors be removed from the ship and isolated. 'It is not necessary for someone to die on board,' said Crozier in the letter. Esper said that he had not read the commandant's letter in detail."



My opinion: it is disadvantageous for a state if the government has a steep learning curve in the middle of a crisis. A government with little expertise should rely on experts right from the beginning of a crisis.
 
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