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Jura The idiot

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There are at least two REAL aircraft carriers operating in the MED.....:cool:



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while Several Maritime Patrol Aircraft are involved in a big hunt: one (possibly two) Oscar II-class submarine that Russia has sent after NATO warships.
According to military sources close to The Aviationist, a big hunt is underway in the eastern Med: several MPA aircraft, including
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jets operating from NAS Sigonella, Sicily, are looking for one, possibly two, Russian Navy submarines operating in the vicinity of a group of warships of the NATO Maritime Group.

What makes the news even more interesting is the fact that the Russian Navy submarine would be an Oscar II Class, that is to say a “carrier killer” sub, designed with the primary mission of countering aircraft carrier battlegroups. Among the NATO vessels in proximity of the Oscar II there is also the
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and the USS Eisenhower is not too far away either.

Therefore a massive Cold War-style hide-and-seek in underway, keeping both sides quite busy.

Although heavily defended, large flattops are vulnerable to submarines and can’t be considered immune from receiving battle damage or being limited in their fighting ability by a modern sub operating nearby:
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, while avoiding detection by ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) aircraft, and pretend-sinking U.S. (or allied) carriers and most of their escort vessels.

Those were scripted drills, with the flattops put in the most challenging conditions for training purposes; still, the simulated sinkings once again prove that aircraft carriers’ underwater defenses, albeit excellent, are not impenetrable and subs still pose a significant threat to powerful Carrier Strike Groups.

Especially when the attacker is a quite advanced Oscar II class nuclear-powered guided-missile submarine (SSGN) using long-range SS-N-19 “Shipwreck” ASCMs (anti-ship cruise missiles).

Based on the latest reports, 8 Oscar IIs are in active service built in the 1980s and early 1990s, eight remain in service. Even though deemed to be inferior to those of the Akula II, the acoustic performance of the Oscar II class is believed to be superior to early
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submarine.

In 2016 Russia has started a multiyear plan to modernise all its Project 949A Oscar II-class subs that includes replacing the 24 SS-N-19 missiles with up to 72 newer 3M55 Oniks (SS-N-26 ‘Strobile’) or 3M54 Klub (SS-N-27 ‘Sizzler’) anti ship missiles.
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Jura said:
while Several Maritime Patrol Aircraft are involved in a big hunt: one (possibly two) Oscar II-class submarine that Russia has sent after NATO warships.
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Here again, this is just SOP, no doubt the Liaoning has a constant "shadow" as well, HEH!, Heh!, Heh!???? If the Pres gave an order??? lets just say, there are "assets" in the water.

However, I'm going to issue a disclaimer, I rather doubt the Liaoning is considered as much of a threat at its present stage of "combat readiness"??? so prolly wouldn't always have a shadow, but no doubt there is a "sonar signature" on file???
 
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Air Force Brat said:
Here again, this is just SOP, no doubt the Liaoning has a constant "shadow" as well, HEH!, Heh!, Heh!???? If the Pres gave an order??? lets just say, there are "assets" in the water.

However, I'm going to issue a disclaimer, I rather doubt the Liaoning is considered as much of a threat at its present stage of "combat readiness"??? so prolly wouldn't always have a shadow, but no doubt there is a "sonar signature" on file???
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In addition, Oscars are SSGNs...not the type of sub to shadow US or UK carriers or other large vessels. IMHO, they would use SSNs for that. SSGNs would generally be much further off relying on targeting from closer vessels.
 
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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (Dec. 8, 2016) A Marine Nationale (French navy) Rafale Marine aircraft from the aircraft carrier FS Charles De Gaulle (R91) performs a touch and go landing on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Eisenhower, currently deployed as part of the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, is conducting naval operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations in support of U.S. national security interests in Europe. (U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 3rd Class Christopher A. Michaels/Released)
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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (Dec. 8, 2016) French navy Rafale Marine aircraft from the aircraft carrier FS Charles De Gaulle (R91) fly in formation above the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Eisenhower, currently deployed as part of the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, is conducting naval operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations in support of U.S. national security interests in Europe. (U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 3rd Class Christopher A. Michaels/Released)
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FORBIN said:
KOOL i am KOOL :cool: hehe
Here really on duty... left soon for start RCOH in february normaly.
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Yes Master Forbin, you are kool son, but Obi Wan is a "Rock Star", and BD, well he is SO KOOL, he lowers the temperature of any room he walks into by 20 degrees Fahrenheit!

oh and Master Forbin, you R a very bright lad, very bright indeed,,,, I'm so thrilled to count you among the "inner circle" here on the SDF

and guys don't forget to pray for bro Jeff, he is expecting grandbabies 12 and 13, so please remember to lift not only Jeff, but Gail and their children, and grandchildren.
 
FORBIN

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Yes Master Forbin, you are kool son, but Obi Wan is a "Rock Star", and BD, well he is SO KOOL, he lowers the temperature of any room he walks into by 20 degrees Fahrenheit!

oh and Master Forbin, you R a very bright lad, very bright indeed,,,, I'm so thrilled to count you among the "inner circle" here on the SDF
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Mainly joking my Friend ofc, not arrogant but i love your humor and this KOOLLLL haha :D
some don' t have boring ! too serious possible provide good things, interesting and joke a little why not.

And Mr Obi is Jedi Master how it is possible get this privilege ? a bit jealous hehe:)
 
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