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gelgoog said:

Chinese hardware only became competitive like 15 years ago. And they only had an export available 5th generation this year.

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Chinese aircraft hardware didn't become properly competitive until the J-16, J10C, J-20, KJ-500, and PL-15 were available. The oldest of these pieces wasn't operational until 2015, and the J-10C wasn't available for purchase until 2020. And we didn't know for sure that these weapons were competitive until the May 7 battle. It's shocking how quickly Chinese military technology has progressed, and I wouldn't blame any military purchasers for sleeping on them in the past.

mshrief303 said:

About the foreign base, Egypt ability to negotiate for a foreign base with China or Russia will be undermined greatly because this countries will be a part of the war directly as the Invading forces will not let them build the base. Unlike the usual way, when the foreign country build the base, and deter any agression against this country, so it'll most likely be too late.

Even getting foreign militaries to protect the interior - like what happend after 1967 - will not be easy, as the US & Israel capability is way more powerful compared to these foreign militaries, and these countries face a lot of threats. So these countries - if willing - will use Asymmetric ways to help egypt, but most of them won't deploy thier troops to Egypt.

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I don't think it's very realistic to expect either China or Russia to build any military bases in Egypt. China simply doesn't have the interest and I doubt they'll develop any such interest in the foreseeable future.

Russia has wanted access to the Meditteranean Sea since at least the 19th century, and they've never had it. Right now, their Black Sea fleet is probably in the most precarious situation it's ever been in, and there are no short term prospects of changing that anytime soon. And I believe that Turkey has closed the Bosphorus Strait so it's going to take even more time and effort.

4Tran said:

I don't think it's very realistic to expect either China or Russia to build any military bases in Egypt. China simply doesn't have the interest and I doubt they'll develop any such interest in the foreseeable future.

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I agree with you, but the most important reason is that Egypt will not look for any foreign base in it's land or accept any offer to do so, as I said . If they're willing - because of a big defeat & and the need deterrence (nuclear) - then they will have problems to look for a country that's able to do it.

@coldplayer1002

About what you asked in J-10's thread:

the AIM-120 is an air-to-air missile, you're right about that. But the deal is for NASAMS air defence system which uses air-to-air missiles with a booster as it's SAM missile.

So the US is luring Egypt saying: "Here you got it for your air defence, and it's about time you'll get it for your aircraft, therefore cancel any deal/talks with china", and if Egypt did that --> Egypt-China relations will be in jeopardy, and US won't deliver the system in the end because they already got what they want, and the Israel lobby will do the usual work they did for more than 30 years against Egypt.

The only reasons that egypt will do that will be:
1) they're afraid of US's economic sanctions and want to lower their heads for the time being until they've better circumstances. Therefore they'll tell china to cool off the deal and delay it, and that they will do the deal later, and give US a false victory.
2) they're infiltrated.

If it was Nasser he would not have cared about any of that. Let them ban Egypt from SWIFT, and they would lose access to the Suez canal.

gelgoog said:

If it was Nasser he would not have cared about any of that. Let them ban Egypt from SWIFT, and they would lose access to the Suez canal.

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If you've have a policy, you need to enforce it. And Egypt doesn't have the capability to flag threats of closing the canal every time something arises, it's a last resort, and it'll give the US & Israel and the west as a whole the ability & reasons to mobilize their forces to attack egypt, which requires Egypt to have capability to counter that.

Nasser wasn't a suicidal man, he had the ability to close it because of his ongoing war with Israel, which he didn't start, so it's harder for the US & west to mobilize their populations & capabilities against him. Egypt, as it's right now, make sure it's not the one starting the war, so it doesn't get a huge push back by the west, they know the danger of doing that but they see it as necessity of this period,

Beside Egypt's economy is not designed & solidified for economic war like Russia or China now, they do some things but it's not enough.
By the way, Egypt doesn't need to close the canal, they can just stop the VIP treatment that US has in part of Camp David Accord, which in exchange of US's money, egypt allow them to pass the canal in 2 days maximum regardless of the waiting row, they can delay civilian ships by a day & military ones by 2 days...that will affect them greatly while leaving a room for more escalation and still having the suez canal as a shorter route than going around africa (7 days)

Nevertheless, the Suez canal is at a very high step in Egypt's escalation ladder and they'll use it very carefully.