Tasman
Junior Member
Regardless of any rumours the fact is that the RAN has already signed a contract and made a hefty down payment on three AEGIS systems so the Australian vessels will have AEGIS.
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Regardless of any rumours the fact is that the RAN has already signed a contract and made a hefty down payment on three AEGIS systems so the Australian vessels will have AEGIS.
Cheers
Tasman
Junior Member
Selection of the F100 was officially announced by the minister this morning. It seems that the baseline rather than an enhanced F100 version will be built but the possibility of a fourth ship funded partly from the $1bn saving from selecting the smaller Spanish design (mentioned in media reports but NOT by the Minister) would be a sweetener for the RAN which will be a bit disappointed that the G@C design was rejected.
Here is the minister's press release:
The F100 will greatly enhance the RAN's air warfare capabilities.
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Spain Goes Long
June 10, 2008:
Spain is arming its largest warships with long range weapons it had long insisted it would never use. Maybe not, but Spain is buying 20 U.S. RGM-109E Block IV Surface Ship Vertical Launched Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles, plus five sets of control equipment. Spain will use the Tomahawks in its four F-100 class frigates. This Tomahawk weighs 1.2 ton, is 18 feet long, has a range 1,600 kilometers, getting there at a speed of 600-900 kilometers an hour, flying at an altitude of 50-100 feet and propelled by a jet engine generating only 600 pounds of thrust. Accuracy is on a par with JDAM (about 30 feet).
The 6,000 ton F100 frigates have Aegis radar systems (controlling Standard and Sea Sparrow missiles), and 48 Mark-41 vertical launch cells for missiles. The ships also carry eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles, a 127mm gun, and a short-range anti-missile defense system. Each F-100 costs about half a billion dollars. These ships entered service between 2002-2006. The F-100s could also be equipped to use the anti-missile version of the Standard missile, but Spain has denied any interest in that, so far.
June 10, 2008:
Spain is arming its largest warships with long range weapons it had long insisted it would never use. Maybe not, but Spain is buying 20 U.S. RGM-109E Block IV Surface Ship Vertical Launched Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles, plus five sets of control equipment. Spain will use the Tomahawks in its four F-100 class frigates. This Tomahawk weighs 1.2 ton, is 18 feet long, has a range 1,600 kilometers, getting there at a speed of 600-900 kilometers an hour, flying at an altitude of 50-100 feet and propelled by a jet engine generating only 600 pounds of thrust. Accuracy is on a par with JDAM (about 30 feet).
The 6,000 ton F100 frigates have Aegis radar systems (controlling Standard and Sea Sparrow missiles), and 48 Mark-41 vertical launch cells for missiles. The ships also carry eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles, a 127mm gun, and a short-range anti-missile defense system. Each F-100 costs about half a billion dollars. These ships entered service between 2002-2006. The F-100s could also be equipped to use the anti-missile version of the Standard missile, but Spain has denied any interest in that, so far.
I guess the best place to put the following:
Ok, now the debate if and how to improve on the AB design gets going. Will be interesting to see how far they decide to go here, or if the USN wants only little change after some bad experiances lately.
The DDG-1000 project has developed some nice new technologies, getting some into a Burke design might also be a step to incorporate them into a future CG(X).
Also interesting is the idea of an unarmed radar ship as the eye of a taskforce.
Ok, now the debate if and how to improve on the AB design gets going. Will be interesting to see how far they decide to go here, or if the USN wants only little change after some bad experiances lately.
The DDG-1000 project has developed some nice new technologies, getting some into a Burke design might also be a step to incorporate them into a future CG(X).
Also interesting is the idea of an unarmed radar ship as the eye of a taskforce.
Here's my vote:
Would allow limited DDG-1000 tech to be employed now and could serve as a bridge design for the Ticonderoga vessels as they retire, until the CGX is available...or ultimately could just serve as the next CG design if the CGX extends out too far.
Question: How does the 25mm Mk. 38 mod 2 compare with 20mm Phalanx in CIWS role?
BAE Systems in Minneapolis, MN announced a $39 million delivery order from the U.S. Navy to deliver 67 of its Mk 38 Mod 2 gun mounts to go aboard cruisers, destroyers and Landing Ship Transport Dock (LPD) ships for reliable close-in defense against small craft et. al. DID has covered the basic Mk 38 gun before, but the Mk 38 Mod 2 is a stabilized 25mm gun with radar and/or TOPLITE laser/optical/infared guidance, auto-tracking once locked, its own integrated power system, no through-deck penetration, automated or manual operation, and embedded training incorporated into the system’s interface. The Mk 38 gun has an effective range of 1 mile, and uses the same M242 25mm chain gun found on the Marines’ LAV-25 and Army M2/M3 Bradley armored vehicles.
BAE Systems has teamed with Israel’s Rafael for the development and production of the Mk 38 Mod 2, drawing on that company’s considerable experience with naval systems like the Rafael Typhoon remotely-operated weapons system. The system is assembled and tested at BAE Systems’ Louisville, KY site, and is just entering production. This order releases $39 million from the current $395 million contract. For more information re: this system, see the PPT/Mp3/WMV/QuickTime media briefing provided by BAE VP of Naval Programs Dave Lassek at Washington, DC’s National Press Club on April 3, 2006.
UPDATE: BAE Systems delivered the first Mk 38 Mod 2 systems to the U.S. Navy the week of April 2, 2007. The systems will be delivered from spring 2007 through March 2008
BAE Systems in Minneapolis, MN announced a $39 million delivery order from the U.S. Navy to deliver 67 of its Mk 38 Mod 2 gun mounts to go aboard cruisers, destroyers and Landing Ship Transport Dock (LPD) ships for reliable close-in defense against small craft et. al. DID has covered the basic Mk 38 gun before, but the Mk 38 Mod 2 is a stabilized 25mm gun with radar and/or TOPLITE laser/optical/infared guidance, auto-tracking once locked, its own integrated power system, no through-deck penetration, automated or manual operation, and embedded training incorporated into the system’s interface. The Mk 38 gun has an effective range of 1 mile, and uses the same M242 25mm chain gun found on the Marines’ LAV-25 and Army M2/M3 Bradley armored vehicles.
BAE Systems has teamed with Israel’s Rafael for the development and production of the Mk 38 Mod 2, drawing on that company’s considerable experience with naval systems like the Rafael Typhoon remotely-operated weapons system. The system is assembled and tested at BAE Systems’ Louisville, KY site, and is just entering production. This order releases $39 million from the current $395 million contract. For more information re: this system, see the PPT/Mp3/WMV/QuickTime media briefing provided by BAE VP of Naval Programs Dave Lassek at Washington, DC’s National Press Club on April 3, 2006.
UPDATE: BAE Systems delivered the first Mk 38 Mod 2 systems to the U.S. Navy the week of April 2, 2007. The systems will be delivered from spring 2007 through March 2008
Pointblank
Senior Member
The Mk38 is designed for close in protection against small craft. This is an upgrade that makes the system remotely operated for protection.
Ah, I somehow exspected to see those pics again here ...
Then you'd have to talk the navy into buying new cruisers already instead of increasing destroyer #. But then again, with your ships being less expensive and even lighter than a Zumwalt, the terminology shouldn't matter.
The thing is, building them might take a bit more time and cost money the navy is currently reluctant to spend as long as there's no decission regarding a future CG design.
Question: do you also envision any further ASW capabilitiy here besides the two Seahawks? Onboard or towed sonars?
Skywatcher
Captain
Jeff, perhaps it would be a good idea to make the next destroyer nuclear powered, after the shipyards have undergone the necessary refitting to build and handle reactors and the like?
(would come in handy for modifying them with high energy weapons)
(would come in handy for modifying them with high energy weapons)