Abrams Q&A "with a dash of other stuff"
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BrotherofSnake
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Will the Abrams be refitted with L55's anytime soon?
BrotherofSnake said:
I heard they were looking at upgrading to a new gun. The L-55 would be a pretty good improvement. Right now, M1A2 with the newer IVIS and systems upgraded to M1A2SEP gives it significant capabilities past the Challenger II or Leopard 2A5. I'm not sure about the A6 configuration however.
MIGleader said:
Not likely. RPG's haven't been very effective against M1 tanks. They have been known to damage tracks however. They've even damaged it's armor. But then again, any tank is susceptible to that type of damage. I've heard reports from the desert that some insurgents have been firing upwards of 20 or more RPG's at M1's and they have survived and continued to fight even though damaged.
depends on the type of warhead. The RUAG made tandem warhead fitted to the RPG-7 has played hell with U.S armour.
dont wont to get to specific on just were to mission kill a abrams or just which part of the side aspect is the best place to hit with RPG-7 but yes it can and has been done more than once.
dont wont to get to specific on just were to mission kill a abrams or just which part of the side aspect is the best place to hit with RPG-7 but yes it can and has been done more than once.
I have two bit wider questions, hope you can help me on these.
First, What is the structure (order of battle) of main US tank formation (division or brigade) and the general placement of tanks in US army usits. In which kind of divisions are they fielded, what kind of support units (artillery mainly) those have? Also i would like to know the battalion and company level odred of battle.
Secoond, What kind of tactics does US army use their tanks? If i recall correctly, you were in the Gulf war? Could you tell about how you division moved, what objectives it (or smaller units like battalion) recived and how did they execute them? If this information is classifield, then perhaps you could tell about these things in theoretical bases?
If i'm being too unspesific in my questions, please say so and I try to reprhase them...
Thanks in advance...
First, What is the structure (order of battle) of main US tank formation (division or brigade) and the general placement of tanks in US army usits. In which kind of divisions are they fielded, what kind of support units (artillery mainly) those have? Also i would like to know the battalion and company level odred of battle.
Secoond, What kind of tactics does US army use their tanks? If i recall correctly, you were in the Gulf war? Could you tell about how you division moved, what objectives it (or smaller units like battalion) recived and how did they execute them? If this information is classifield, then perhaps you could tell about these things in theoretical bases?
If i'm being too unspesific in my questions, please say so and I try to reprhase them...
Thanks in advance...
Sure Goll , no problem.
First a U.S tank platoon=4 tanks company=14 from there units tend to become more modular to fit the specific mission or tasking order. During the Gulf war we had a full Bat of 58 tanks. The First Cav Div had well over 300 tanks and close to 300 brads. I can tell you the size of the first cav was stunning. I have nor will ever see anything like to again. You being a arty man would have marveled at seeing the full Div Arty blow its wad against R-guard units. Over 100 155 and dozens of MRLS firing over head was sheer thunder and lighting man.
As for tactics…..too funny …we departed our phase line and were told that everything to the front was enemy, SMOKE‘EM…ROGER THAT, WHITE 1…and that’s what we did we did everything to our front we killed. Most of the time we would stop at about 3000 to 4000 meters and just take shots at everything that showed hot on our thermals.
First a U.S tank platoon=4 tanks company=14 from there units tend to become more modular to fit the specific mission or tasking order. During the Gulf war we had a full Bat of 58 tanks. The First Cav Div had well over 300 tanks and close to 300 brads. I can tell you the size of the first cav was stunning. I have nor will ever see anything like to again. You being a arty man would have marveled at seeing the full Div Arty blow its wad against R-guard units. Over 100 155 and dozens of MRLS firing over head was sheer thunder and lighting man.
As for tactics…..too funny …we departed our phase line and were told that everything to the front was enemy, SMOKE‘EM…ROGER THAT, WHITE 1…and that’s what we did we did everything to our front we killed. Most of the time we would stop at about 3000 to 4000 meters and just take shots at everything that showed hot on our thermals.
Thanks...
So how many infantry units (battalions) there where in 1st Cavalry Div?
So how many infantry units (battalions) there where in 1st Cavalry Div?
my brigade "Iron Horse" at the time had 2 tank bats and 1 inf bat. one of the other brigades I think it was the "gray wolf" had 2 inf bats and 1 tank bat. the other brigade was set up just like mine. so 4 inf bats and 5 tnk bats total in 1st cav. but there was also a cav squadron with HQ that had a couple of inf companys and a tank company...cheers ute
What sort of artillery units did the brigades have? And how about the divisional level artillery??