2026 Israel-US vs. Iran conflict [Military updates/News Only]

Anlsvrthng

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Well, it it a big problem for the rest of the world.

The USA is a net oil exporter since 2022.

So, the shut down of the oil production in the gulf, and say 200 USD per barrell benefit the USA , and has only positive effect.

It is devastating for the rest of the world, and for the international money class.
And Trump hate them.

So, honestly, this whole Iran wirtschaft line up with Trump previous move, including but not limited:
1 Shut down USAID
2. Import tarrifs
3. get out of several international organisation
4. releasing of Epstein files
5. drop a wrench into the petrodollar machine (Iran war )
 

iewgnem

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Well, it it a big problem for the rest of the world.

The USA is a net oil exporter since 2022.

So, the shut down of the oil production in the gulf, and say 200 USD per barrell benefit the USA , and has only positive effect.

It is devastating for the rest of the world, and for the international money class.
And Trump hate them.

So, honestly, this whole Iran wirtschaft line up with Trump previous move, including but not limited:
1 Shut down USAID
2. Import tarrifs
3. get out of several international organisation
4. releasing of Epstein files
5. drop a wrench into the petrodollar machine (Iran war )
That's not how it works because US runs $1 trillion trade deficit and is sitting on $40T debt.
The question you need to ask isn't if US can supply its own oil, the question is:
1. Can US export enough oil at a price anyone can afford to offset the cost of importing practically everything else in the modern world.
2. Can US export enough oil to offset the spike in yield due to end of Gulf states recycling their USD revenue into treasuries
3. Can US survive if all other western economies collapse.

When Gulf states recycle their USD into treasuries, the system was effectively setup so that it's actually US selling those oil and Gulf state rulers only well paid local production managers. End of gulf state oil production is a direct and massive hit to US income.
 

siegecrossbow

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Well, it it a big problem for the rest of the world.

The USA is a net oil exporter since 2022.

So, the shut down of the oil production in the gulf, and say 200 USD per barrell benefit the USA , and has only positive effect.

It is devastating for the rest of the world, and for the international money class.
And Trump hate them.

So, honestly, this whole Iran wirtschaft line up with Trump previous move, including but not limited:
1 Shut down USAID
2. Import tarrifs
3. get out of several international organisation
4. releasing of Epstein files
5. drop a wrench into the petrodollar machine (Iran war )
If it goes above 200 dollars a barrel we will have global recession because people can’t afford the oil.
 

Anlsvrthng

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That's not how it works because US runs $1 trillion trade deficit and is sitting on $40T debt.
The question you need to ask isn't if US can supply its own oil, the question is:
1. Can US export enough oil at a price anyone can afford to offset the cost of importing practically everything else in the modern world.
2. Can US export enough oil to offset the spike in yield due to end of Gulf states recycling their USD revenue into treasuries
3. Can US survive if all other western economies collapse.

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Things collapse from the standpoint of individual, not from the country.

We can expect that the collapse of the dollar denominated financial system will create lot of Israel affilliated family whom can't afford any more ten private jet.

Other side it will create lot of industrial job.

Check whats happened at the last crisis. the curve went back from the extreme.

This time it will ballance itself most likelly.
 

FriedButter

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Well, it it a big problem for the rest of the world.

The USA is a net oil exporter since 2022.

So, the shut down of the oil production in the gulf, and say 200 USD per barrell benefit the USA , and has only positive effect.
Other side it will create lot of industrial job.

It won’t be positive for the US. If Trump decides to ban exports of energy then prices will skyrocket for everyone else. The average American will save a bit at the pumps and the heating season. Then they will get absolutely hammered everywhere else. The US imports a lot of consumer goods, industrial machinery and raw goods. What happens when their foreign suppliers begin hiking prices massively or shut down?

You can’t build new factories without industrial machinery and you can’t mass produce industrial machinery without raw materials. But in order to extract and refine raw materials in large quantities. You need industrial equipment. So by the time a domestic alternatives is created. They would enter a market where consumer demand has cratered into the ground from financial stresses a long time ago. As such, why would someone build a factory if there is no one to sell the goods to.

The end result is global demand destruction including the US.
 

iewgnem

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Things collapse from the standpoint of individual, not from the country.

We can expect that the collapse of the dollar denominated financial system will create lot of Israel affilliated family whom can't afford any more ten private jet.

Other side it will create lot of industrial job.

Check whats happened at the last crisis. the curve went back from the extreme.

This time it will ballance itself most likelly.
What happened after the last oil shock was literally the start of de-industrialization and debt accumulation that led us to the current state.

When was the last time a western empire came back? Most likely outcome of collapse of USD based financial system is permanent exit of US from relevancy. Ironically you're demonstrating exactly why that is: nations are made up of individuals, wealth of nations isn't money, its the collective will and actions of those individuals, there is no nation without the individual.

Losing the USD means US also lose the ability to import any and all modern artifacts required to industrialize and the foreign talent with knowledge on how to do so. Left by itself with only oil, you need millions of individuals working collectively over generations to first educate the population so they know what to do, then another generation to actually do it, during the entire time you'll be poor and weak and requiring you to play nice with those who will stop you in revenge for what you did in the past.

The reason no western empire ever came back is because all western empires were built on conquest, and the nature of empires built on conquest is they do not know how to sacrifice and build.
 

Moonscape

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I remember an article from the War Nerd that compared assassinations to a reverse HR. Where the HR tries to hire competent people and fire incompetent people, assassinations need to eliminate competent people and keep incompetent people around. I think it's arguable that the Israeli assassinations have mostly done the opposite.
Tellingly, the new Ayatollah has not made any public appearances. Smart man.
 
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