2026 Israel-US vs. Iran conflict [Military updates/News Only]

_killuminati_

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Some people don't want to live like rats and constantly looking over their shoulders. I know that in Islam the possibility of dying for what they believe is right doesn't scare them in fact they embrace it, they place heavy emphasis on martyrdom.
It's not martyrdom if you willingly choose death when safety is available - it is suicide. Islamic doctrine values life, not such heroism that serves no purpose.

What drone is this in the 1st pic?


The Iranians, with the help of "Shahids", destroyed the American radar AN/FPS-117 in the area of Al-Qaisum airport in Saudi Arabia. The cost of such a radar is around 20 million dollars.
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Anlsvrthng

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The USN is down to about 2100 SM's in total after 3 days of Iran. Holy shit. That must mean that 20-30% of all VLS cells are permanently empty - there simply aren't enough missiles to fill the tubes. Yet alone reload much.
There must be evidence of them pulling missiles of ships coming in from finished tours and transferring them to outgoing ships?
And not only SM-3 and 6 but also SM-2 (which I thought they had plenty of).
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Problem is the SM-2/3 in this case used outside of they original design parameters, deifned half century ago.

The semi active radar homing, the parabolic reflector instead of the PESA on the S-300 or Patriot, and the low energy of the illumiator means it can engage small target in relative short range (maybe up to 50 km?) and a strategic bomber on the long end of its range , in high altitude.

So, using them as air defence to protect cities from sea is not the best way to use. For that it is better to use the SM-6.
Additionalz , the lost FPS-132 means that the AEGIS main radar has to search AND track and to do it on very long range. Not the best .
 

gwel

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There must be evidence of them pulling missiles of ships coming in from finished tours and transferring them to outgoing ships?
And not only SM-3 and 6 but also SM-2 (which I thought they had plenty of).

And there is, not specifically for any specific munition, but in general for - well basically all munitions they use. The term they use is "cross-decking" which is a practice they introduced to transfer munitions that are currently certified for use for a long enough period of time, these do not go back to the depot or stay on a ship that comes into port, but are cross-decked immediately to another ship which needs them for a deployment.

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DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY FISCAL YEAR (FY) 2023 BUDGET ESTIMATES
JUSTIFICATION OF ESTIMATES APRIL 2022

Page 312 / 664

There will be a significant increase in the number of cross-decking for deployed systems, as well as
associated Integrated Logistics Support (ILS). Additional ILS includes Diminishing Manufacturing Source and Material
Shortages (DMSMS)

I just love these names. "Diminishing Manufacturing Source and Material Shortages (DMSMS)" sounds much better than "we're low on missiles"

There is no "smoking gun" yet for SM's specifically, but the USMC had a training manual mentioning cross-decking in a munitions context:

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MCTP 13-10B Combat Cargo Operations

Page 31 / 167

It may become necessary to cross-deck munitions during turnover with incoming ARG/MEU units.

I found plenty more supporting documents that show that the USN has the legal framework, standing orders, training manuals and an inventory system aligned with this practice enabling them to shuffle ammo from ship to ship as needed.

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THE NAVAL ORDNANCE MANAGEMENT POLICY (NOMP) MANUAL

12.1.2.2 Supply Source Levels. To facilitate maximum inventory support for approved forces, the
customer has three levels of supply source to draw from. The first level is from their own shipfill, mission
load, or service ammunition allowance that has been tailored to their mission. This supply is carried with
them to draw from, wherever they deploy. The second level of supply source is retail-resupply stocks
from cargo loads aboard CLF ships and some overseas secondary stocking points, or by cross-decking
from other combatants.
This supply is available to the customer through UNREP or overseas port visit.
The third level of supply source is from the CONUS primary and secondary stocking points. This supply
is available to the customer primarily pier side or at anchorage and can be from either retail stocks or
wholesale stocks, which have been transferred from inland wholesale storage to the retail stock point for
transfer to the customer. These CONUS primary and secondary stocking points support the Fleet by
filling the shipfills and mission loads for combatant ships initially and “topping them off” as required, at
pier side or by lighterage.

1.3.3 Crossdecking Requirements. Upon completion of the deployment, ALMs that meet the following
requirements may be transferred (cross-decked) to the relieving ship:
a. Containerized ALMs that have been deep stowed and have sufficient time before MDD
expiration for the receiving ship to complete its deployment.
b. Ready service missiles that have sufficient MDD time remaining may be crossdecked. The MDD
may be extended to meet an operational commitment by requesting an M/E/N extension as identified in
Volume I, Chapter 12.4.
c. AMRAAM, HARM/AARGM, HARPOON, HELLFIRE, JSOW, MAVERICK, SIDEWINDER,
SLAM-ER, and SEA SPARROW missiles may be crossdecked
unless they fail a BIT, fail an on-aircraft
test, experience visible damage, or will reach MDD before the completion of the next deployment. The
MDD may be extended to meet an operational commitment by requesting an M/E/N extension as
identified in Volume I, Chapter 12.4 of this manual.
d. Captive flown missiles may be crossdecked unless they fail a required BIT, experience visible
damage, or will reach MDD before the completion of the next deployment.
e. Ammo Accounting Division (Afloat: Shipboard Weapons Department, Ashore: NMC Activities,
Navy Weapons Departments, and MCASs (Station Weapons)) with ACES access will total the captive
carried time on serialized missile T/M/S and print a copy of the remaining automated captive carry time
to date. This is done as required, but at least upon transfer of custody, print the logbook reports and enter
a copy into missile logbooks. Ammo accounting division personnel can then delete the crossdecked
serialized T/M/S accumulated captive carry time from the ACES database.

This is bypassing the maintenance depots, which, before this practice, apparently served as central hubs for ammo.
They now need to be bypassed to ensure their ships have sufficient ammo, cross-decking directly from ship-to-ship.

Wow.

That whole TRAM thing of reloading VLS at sea? That's not to fire multiple missiles from a VLS tube. That's to shuffle ammo between ships cause they don't have enough. Instead of going back to a port, they want to pass off missiles at sea.
This is the only context in which that makes sense, since they don't even have enough missiles to fill all Burkes and Ticos up at once, so a reload of a Burke can only come from another Burke or Tico.

Sorry for obsessing so much about SM stockpiles, I hope this isn't too off topic, I somehow had the urge to figure this out.
 

taxiya

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Will Trump Still Visit China?

Talks in Paris Monday between U.S. Treasury Secretary
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and Chinese officials were meant to prepare for the president's visit.

“We had a very good two days here,” Bessent said, adding that a statement “reaffirming the stability” between the two countries would be issued “in the next few days.”

If Trump's request to delay the face-to-face visit with Chinese President
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is granted, it could spark major economic consequences. Over the past year, relations between Washington and Beijing have been fraught, with both sides threatening steep tariffs.

In Beijing, a foreign ministry official said only that the two countries had maintained communication about Trump's visit.

“Head-of-state diplomacy plays an irreplaceable strategic guiding role in China-U.S. relations,” Lin Jian said at a daily briefing.

Bessent urged investors not to react negatively if Trump puts off the trip.

Speaking in the Oval Office Monday afternoon, the president said the U.S. and China had a very good relationship, but that the war in Iran took priority.
Here is the full reponse of China to the talk.
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I have never seen China being this openly negative to any meeting. Here I quoate the full statement from He Lifeng. Red texts are accusation of US, black texts are the usual words we have been hearing every time afterwards. You get the feeling.

何立峰表示,在两国元首重要共识战略引领下,经过去年五轮经贸磋商,中美在经贸领域达成一系列磋商成果,为两国经贸关系和世界经济注入了更多确定性和稳定性。近期,美最高法院已裁决美依据《国际紧急经济权力法》加征的关税违法,随后美方依据《1974年贸易法》第122条对所有贸易伙伴加征10%进口附加费,还陆续出台了有关301调查、企业制裁、市场准入限制等涉华消极举措。中方反对美方加征单边关税的立场是一贯的,敦促美方彻底取消单边关税等限制措施,并将采取必要措施,坚决捍卫自身正当合法权益。希望美方与中方相向而行,共同落实好两国元首重要共识,不断拉长合作清单,压缩问题清单,推动中美经贸关系健康、稳定、可持续发展。

"If Trump's request to delay the face-to-face visit with Chinese President
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is granted, it could spark major economic consequences."
This sentence is so rediculous. Does anybody need a permission to cancel a meeting when he can not come? How could anyone refuse that request? Does US think that Xi Jinping may send PLA to snatch Trump from white house and bring him to Beijing? Trump coming to Beijing is not a Chinese requst/invitation, there is nothing to grant or not grant to begin with.

All these plays by US demonstrate one thing, they got punched in the face and is desperately searching for ladders to come down.
 

Phead128

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For the record, Trump's delay on visit to Beijing was not retailiation to China's non-committal/refusal reply to Trump's request for opening the Hormuz straits with Chinese navy. It is purely in response to Trump wanting to focus on Iran war.
Trump insisted in Monday’s remarks that the proposed delay was solely about him being in the U.S. to manage the war.

“There’s no tricks to it either,” he added. “It’s very simple. We’ve got a war going on. I think it’s important that I be here.”
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In retrospect, that fact that Trump's China trip was planned/agreed upon 5 months ago, means that the Iran war really seems like an abrupt decision (relatively) speaking that should have concluded by April. It requiring delays to pre-planned schedule means it's not going according to plan.
 

Faisal Iqbal

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Iranian state media confirms security chief Larijani killed

The Guardian

We’re now seeing lines coming through from the Reuters news agency citing Iranian state media confirming that Iran’s national security chief Ali Larijani has been killed.

Israel announced earlier today that he was killed in an overnight strike on Tehran. This marks the first confirmation of his death from Iran.
 

Faisal Iqbal

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Donald Trump's top counterterrorism official has resigned over the war in Iran, urging the president to "reverse course".

In a letter posted to X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed the administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby".

The White House dismissed the letter, saying the president had "compelling evidence" that Iran was going to attack the US first. A US hate monitor accused Kent of "antisemitic tropes".

With his departure, Kent is the most high-profile figure within the Trump administration to publicly criticise the US-Israeli attack on Iran.

In the Oval Office on Tuesday, Trump said Kent was a "nice guy", but "weak on security".

He also said Kent's resignation letter had made him realise "it was a good thing that he's out".
 

Faisal Iqbal

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Summary
  • The Iran war is disrupting the petrocapital cycle—the flow of oil revenues from Gulf producers into global financial markets—raising the risk of a global credit crunch.
  • Ongoing attacks, the Strait of Hormuz closure, and financial center instability (e.g., Dubai) are weakening Gulf economies and limiting their ability to recycle capital into global markets.
  • With financial systems already under strain, reduced petrocapital flows could amplify market volatility, tighten credit, and trigger broader economic shocks beyond energy.
 
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