2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

You guys keep forgetting the UN sanctions snapback deadline. If UN sanctions are reimposed, many Chinese and international companies outside the west are going to avoid trading with Iran. Going for negotiations until October is the only thing that makes sense. Even if the probability of sanctions being reimposed is very high, it still makes sense to try for the small chance of getting free from the UN sanctions. As the recent exchange has shown, Iran can survive a small scale war like this and even if another one happens before October it'll be fine. But if sanctions are reimposed, the costs might be even more severe than the war. You can thank the Russian and Chinese UN security council votes for making Iran utterly dependent on the European votes in the sanctions snapback process

Take this with a grain of salt but
This is from a very credible Iraqi (Pro-Iran) telegram with close sources.


An informed Iranian source told Naya

Since the end of the first phase of the Israeli war on Iran, two to three cargo planes have been landing at Mehrabad Military Airport almost every night, under the protection of Iranian Tomcat and MiG-29 fighter jets.

Since the third day of the war, Chinese aircraft have been entering Iranian airspace, sometimes with their ADSB receivers turned off and sometimes with them on.

Some Chinese shipments have also been sent overland via Pakistani territory, and all have reached their destinations successfully.

What these "shipment" exactly are is not mentioned

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A US destroyer approaches "Iran-controlled waters" in the Gulf of Oman, Iranian helicopter issued an expulsion warning

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gelgoog said:

Well they are retarded.

I could understand them not going for chemical and biological weapons like Saddam did in the Iran-Iraq war. Chemical weapons are kind of a lousy anyway and lead to needless injuries. But not having nukes when these can be used as blackmail against you is just bonkers.

The US was the only country to ever use nukes, and they did it against a country which did not have them. The Soviets realized they needed their own if they didn't want to be next. And the US military did want to use them against the PRC and the USSR in the Korean War. The only reason they didn't do it was because the Soviets also had them I bet.

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Iran can be bluffing when claiming they don't want nukes. Pakistan did the same in 1970s and 80s. What do you think would happen if Iran said the opposite "we are developing nukes"?

Mmmeeeto said:

Take this with a grain of salt but
This is from a very credible Iraqi (Pro-Iran) telegram with close sources.

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An informed Iranian source told Naya

Since the end of the first phase of the Israeli war on Iran, two to three cargo planes have been landing at Mehrabad Military Airport almost every night, under the protection of Iranian Tomcat and MiG-29 fighter jets.

Since the third day of the war, Chinese aircraft have been entering Iranian airspace, sometimes with their ADSB receivers turned off and sometimes with them on.

Some Chinese shipments have also been sent overland via Pakistani territory, and all have reached their destinations successfully.

What these "shipment" exactly are is not mentioned

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Reports were posted here from X, telegram, and Flight Radar, showing Chinese military cargo entering Iran while the conflict was raging.

Images from Karachi airport reveal for the first time that Iran flew some planes to Pakistan in order to avoid destruction by Israel during the 12-day war back in June



Some of Iran's Air Force assets are still being kept safe inside Pakistan, including a KC-707 ELINT aircraft and two Boeing 747 transport aircraft.

According to
Middle East Spectator