2019 India-Pakistani border clash


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Jura

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I can't find that button lolz.

Let me try this instead: @maint1234 , dude, if you want to discuss history, foreign policy and general geopolitics, please start a new thread in the appropriate subsection, and I'll be happy to tackle your complaints towards Pakistan there. But this thread is about the Border Clash in Feb, specifically the tactical picture.
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see?
if you don't have that button, then you're not eligible to report because of a low number of posts so far, I guess

anyway you're not supposed to report somebody is wrong or somebody is a fool LOL it's OK to be wrong or to be a fool,

you're supposed to report only a violation of https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/sd-forum-rules-of-behavior.t7851
for example spamming, name-calling, racist stuff etc.
 

Zool

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ok i think it's quite obvious maint1234 is a troll.
I agree... I'm not one for shutting down a conversation and I can appreciate his patriotism for the Indian position, but he raises points then ignores logical rebuttals and moves onto something else. It's a constant moving of the goal post. Mixed with shots against the board and some of its members.

First it was a successful strike inflicting significant damage (approx. 300 dead), but Sat images and news from Pakistan don't back that up. Then it was an F-16 Shot down, AIM-120 is evidence (no sense here). Then two radar images, that don't show any missile vectoring to the indicated F-16 icon, is somehow supposed to be evidence of an F-16 lost. Regardless of inventory counts. And the new position is, none of that other stuff matters, India launched an air strike against Pakistan which it hasn't done in decades and that changes everything -- except Pakistan mounted its very own air strike on India in response... So what really has changed?

Then maint1234 introduces this gem:
Typical..
Guess since my ban is taking some time, name calling is your only option.
Carry on.
Right after saying:
Seeing your appreciation, you seem to be a expert in satellite data analytics.

Have read the link. It speaks about American and haha "Australian" expertise in GPS targeting. Granted the Americans have expertise but don't remember the Aussies having any such expertise or experience. Satellites can be easily fooled. These bombs are meant to take out the targets at a 60 deg angle. The bombs don't come at a shallow angle that the height would be important. All the hogwash about height, etc they have written is not convincing.
I would rather the media, even Pakistani , get open ground access to the madrassa and deliver their verdict. Why defer to the white man's opinion ?
Bringing race into a convoluted reply, as if the US and Australia aren't multicultural nations. I've seen where racial discussion on Indian Defense boards goes and its ugly. We don't need that here from any side (which I've pointed out before in one of the US-China Strategy threads).
 

localizer

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I guess ppl don't like the interruption in the echo chamber here.
And seeking validation from whiteman is a uniquely Asian characteristic. Everyone here knows it but trying to act sanctimonious. Not convincing anyone.Haha aussie experts .
Citizens from totalitarian societies do have a problem processing contrary viewpoints.. Totally not your fault.
You do know many of us here lived in white countries all our lives and suffered systematic racism growing up? Why are we in a China focused forum in the first place? Because we want to see China become a powerful country, economically and militarily, so parents shouldn't feel like they need to emigrate for their kids. The whites don't want us here. Over time we realize we don't really belong here.

Please don't say something so insulting to us. I'm sure many NRI's and ABCDs can agree, except India isn't even on that trajectory.
 
I guess ppl don't like the interruption in the echo chamber here.
And seeking validation from whiteman is a uniquely Asian characteristic. Everyone here knows it but trying to act sanctimonious. Not convincing anyone.Haha aussie experts .
Citizens from totalitarian societies do have a problem processing contrary viewpoints.. Totally not your fault.
Well, if you're arguing against an echo chamber, one of the reasons you must consider is because you're wrong. If you said that the earth is flat, you'd find yourself against an echo chamber that will not accept any "contrary viewpoint" to the earth being a sphere.

Satellite images don't have ethnic color; they're not yellow, white, brown, etc... They're just pictures, evidence. Bring your Indian satellite pictures and we can talk.

These citizens from a "totalitarian" society are putting forth a heck of a lot more technology patents than democratic India; that's for sure. Maybe your viewpoint is not accepted by these superior thinkers because you're wrong. But Indian society won't allow its citizens to acknowledge even the most obvious Indian defeats; not your fault. ;)
 

ougoah

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@manqiangrexue
The complete far east and south east asia is full of white lovers. The south Asian region from where I am also has this white worship problem. We know it and some acknowledge it some don't. Pakistan for eg recently held a travel conclave to encourage tourism. It only had western travellers as invitee speakers.And many praised the free stuff they would get in Pakistan like food and presents from total strangers. A banned speaker warned her non white tourists not to expect such treatment. In India go to the tourist hotspots and see the love for whites from the locals as compared to the treatment Indians receive.
See the glee with which many here try to quote western news papers, bestowing on them the mantle of fairness. Even though we all know, esp you guys who stay in the west, how even handed the western media is.
That's the reason I said I would welcome even Pakistani media getting open access to balakot, though I know pak media is under the thumb of their establishment. But I believe the truth in our societies eventually leaks out.
And bhakt is just a Congress media invention . 99.9% Indians won't even know what it means and is being used as a insult. Modi government will be judged on local perception and local issues. Most of the ppl who understand such terms wont even trouble going to vote.
Chinese and Pakistanis won't understand that no one can predict free and fair elections. Who expected the brexit vote or trump winning or vajpayee losing or Churchill losing after ww2 ?
Just after bjp won its landslide in 2014, it was mauled in Delhi state elections.
AHAHAHAHAhahaha... hahahahaha

I sincerely hope you are 15 years old. This level of pettiness is not going to work for an adult. Have fun growing up. Hopefully you'll mature into a more appropriate human.

Reporting this guy is just going to clean up this thread a bit from unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and conjecture this guy's been polluting for the last few pages. While all of that is worth it, keeping it around exposes the stupidity that's resulted from nationalistic brain-damage. Perhaps the western lurkers (who we apparently are in love with) can also have a laugh at the effects of BJP leadership.
 
@manqiangrexue
The complete far east and south east asia is full of white lovers. The south Asian region from where I am also has this white worship problem. We know it and some acknowledge it some don't. Pakistan for eg recently held a travel conclave to encourage tourism. It only had western travellers as invitee speakers.And many praised the free stuff they would get in Pakistan like food and presents from total strangers. A banned speaker warned her non white tourists not to expect such treatment. In India go to the tourist hotspots and see the love for whites from the locals as compared to the treatment Indians receive.
See the glee with which many here try to quote western news papers, bestowing on them the mantle of fairness. Even though we all know, esp you guys who stay in the west, how even handed the western media is.
That's the reason I said I would welcome even Pakistani media getting open access to balakot, though I know pak media is under the thumb of their establishment. But I believe the truth in our societies eventually leaks out.
And bhakt is just a Congress media invention . 99.9% Indians won't even know what it means and is being used as a insult. Modi government will be judged on local perception and local issues. Most of the ppl who understand such terms wont even trouble going to vote.
Chinese and Pakistanis won't understand that no one can predict free and fair elections. Who expected the brexit vote or trump winning or vajpayee losing or Churchill losing after ww2 ?
Just after bjp won its landslide in 2014, it was mauled in Delhi state elections.
Continuity of conversation fail
 

maint1234

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AHAHAHAHAhahaha... hahahahaha

I sincerely hope you are 15 years old. This level of pettiness is not going to work for an adult. Have fun growing up. Hopefully you'll mature into a more appropriate human.

Reporting this guy is just going to clean up this thread a bit from unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and conjecture this guy's been polluting for the last few pages. While all of that is worth it, keeping it around exposes the stupidity that's resulted from nationalistic brain-damage. Perhaps the western lurkers (who we apparently are in love with) can also have a laugh at the effects of BJP leadership.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wise people so full of doubts.”
 

Mohsin77

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This guy is on a whole other level of flip flops lolz.

Before Brumby posted the Australian ASPI source:

On the contrary countries like Australia took India's side in their official statement. This is the image of Pakistan in the world.

.....after:

.....Why defer to the white man's opinion ?
....Haha aussie experts .
The complete far east and south east asia is full of white lovers....See the glee with which many here try to quote western news papers, bestowing on them the mantle of fairness.
 
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