2019 India-Pakistani border clash

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SteelBird

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There has been reports that an Indian Su-30MKI shot down a Pakistan drone. However, all sources are either Indian or Russian. I want more independent source of the incident.
 

rabirizvi

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Pakistan Navy detected and forced Indian Navy submarine to leave Pakistani waters. submarine was detected by air assets of Pakistan Navy (most probably a P-3C orion).
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timepass

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The unfortunate part is the semi related primary core issue has once again not been addressed properly and incidents like these though seem disconnected will likely to continue to happen in the future.

Until India/Pakistan can truly come together with REAL goals and objectives for a peaceful resolution in addressing the Kashmir issue, there will ALWAYS be tension!

Thanks for highlighting......appreciated....

Wish world should see the massacre what India is doing in Kashmir since 7 decades but its really pathetic that world is constantly ignoring due to different interests at the cost of humanity....really pathetic...sad....not to forget there are 700,000 Indian army personnel in Kashmir....

There are several UN resolutions for right of self determination for Kashmiri people.... don't know when world will wake up maybe waiting for thousands of more Kashmiri people lives....

What Pakistan is saying since inception, let Kashmiri people decide their fate... weather they want to join Pakistan or they want Independent state or want to stay with India....let them decide.

Now the time is world should interfere....let the UN resolutions exercise....
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Pakistan Navy detected and forced Indian Navy submarine to leave Pakistani waters. submarine was detected by air assets of Pakistan Navy (most probably a P-3C orion).
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How can a submarine be "forced" to leave short of opening fire on it? Even if the sub is detected, and the submarine is under orders to retreat if detected, why would it surface? Why not flee while still submerged?
 

rabirizvi

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How can a submarine be "forced" to leave short of opening fire on it? Even if the sub is detected, and the submarine is under orders to retreat if detected, why would it surface? Why not flee while still submerged?
there are many ways by which you can force a submarine to leave the area or force her to retreat...one is by dropping sonobuoys around it, other includes bring your surface vessels in the area and make them drop depth charges around the vicinity and not necessarily too near the sub . one last one would be to start recording the acoustic signatures of the sub. no sub commander would like that. submarine if detected is as good as dead.if she still doesnt leave the area she will get mighty harassed by the opposing forces
 

rabirizvi

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and by the look of video she kept at snorkel depth willing or unwillingly, after getting detected.maybe she tried showing that she means no harm anymore and leaving the area or flirting with enemy assets in the area, telling them here i am please catch me.not a sane thing to do for a submarine which is a slow prey if surfaced for a LRMPA
 
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