09V/09VI (095/096) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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I started to hear the name Type 095 back in 2011, when I was in high school. It's amazing to finally see her after so many years.
Of course not, because the 095 is a SSN, not a SSBN. SSNs and SSBNs have vastly different mission sets from one another.
SSNs are meant to attack enemy warships and strike enemy land targets with conventional weaponry; whereas SSBNs are meant to be sea-based nuclear deterrence platforms (and to lob nukes against enemy population centers and strategic installations in case of nuclear war).
Submarine-launched ICBMs like the JL-3 can only be launched from SSBNs like the 094/A and the upcoming 096. No SSN can fire them (and they aren't meant to do that in the first place).
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An SSGN would certainly be desirable but they might wait for 096 hull to adapt one if the 095 is still considered on the smaller side for this purpose.
Is there a need to procure a purpose-built SSGN or SSBN?
If the Type-095 has a diameter of 12.5m, that is almost the same as the 13m for the Ohio and Columbia class SSBNs.
So if the Type-095 is stretched with another module to 170m, that will essentially give you an SSGN or SSBN.
then defense spending needs to increase; something CCP has not been fond of. Honestly, AI, quantum computing, biotech robotics and semiconductors are of greater importance to china. No need to pump them out; that's just my opinion. CCP know it better. economic and technological dominance=to subdue enemy without fightingOnly thing left to do now is...pump these babies out like dumplings.
True, but if they are going to triple pack regular VLS in bigger tubes it stands to reason they could also fit one big missile in those tubes instead, right?
From a requirements perspective, I think a stretched Type-095 with additional VLS cells would be a higher priority than more of the current design.
There's so much more you can do with the VLS tubes, considering that:
1. A land-attack hypersonic missile with 1500km+ of range would cost less than $2 Mn (given that the larger DF-17 is ~ $2 Million).
And there are so many soft high-value targets, if only the missile could get into range, which a Type-095 should be able to do.
2. For antiship missions, the YJ-21 ASBM has 1500-2000km of range, and China has already built out a kill-chain for distant real-time targeting
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And when firing missiles from 1500km+ away, the submarine should be able to evade incoming ASW aircraft. This would be far more difficult to do if the submarine had to close to within torpedo range and also deal with ASW helicopters.
Also consider how expensive a nuclear submarine is eg.
a) For the cost of 2.8 Virginia SSNs, you could actually buy a Ford-class aircraft carrier instead
b) It doesn't really make sense for an expensive Type-095 to use short-range torpedoes (at high risk) against a surface group where the Frigates or Destroyers cost a lot less
