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plawolf

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Interesting, I thought one of the key destinguishing differences between the HQ10 and FL3000 was the presence of the MMW radar on the bottom of the FL3000, which uses IR+MMW compared to the more advanced IIR used by the HQ10.

So this could mean that the PLAN is giving the FL3000 a try, or they changed the seeker for the HQ10 to also add a MMW radar seeking capability.

As already pointed out, the HQ10/FL3000 is a last line CIWS which would primarily be tasked with taking on sea skimmers.

Mounting the radar on the bottom would thus make far more sense than top mounting it, since the launcher would be at a higher altitude than pretty much all sea skimmers, and you do not want to be pointing your launcher down into the sea to get your radar LOS on the incoming missiles. Aiming the launcher higher would also give your missiles a lofted trajectory, helping with range somewhat.

Not mounting the radar flush with the launcher is probably due to missile launch back blast considerations, as radomes are generally delicate structures not well suited to taking repeated missile jet blasts full on in the face.
 

by78

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Interesting, I thought one of the key destinguishing differences between the HQ10 and FL3000 was the presence of the MMW radar on the bottom of the FL3000, which uses IR+MMW compared to the more advanced IIR used by the HQ10.

Could you provide a source for FL3000 having MMW radar on the bottom?

Mounting the radar on the bottom would thus make far more sense than top mounting it, since the launcher would be at a higher altitude than pretty much all sea skimmers, and you do not want to be pointing your launcher down into the sea to get your radar LOS on the incoming missiles.

Mounting the radar higher would give it better tracking ability. Mounting a mechanically scanned radar on the bottom in a tiny recessed area is kind of unworkable, so a phased array it is. But then, mounting it low still negatively impacts height measurement of inbound targets.

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by78

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Yes, for those coming at the rear quarter aspect.

Assuming the rear of H/LJQ-363 is indeed blocked. I don't think it is. The pole doesn't appear to block that many degrees of arc. There should be overlapping coverage from the other parts of the antenna as it rotates.
 
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Tam

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Assuming the rear of H/LJQ-363 is indeed blocked. I don't think it is. The pole doesn't appear to block that many degrees of arc. There should be overlapping coverage from the other parts of the antenna as it rotates.

The things hosted on top of the pole might be EW. So yeah, not only will there be significant signal beam blockage, but also significant interference.

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Tam

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Could you provide a source for FL3000 having MMW radar on the bottom?



Mounting the radar higher would give it better tracking ability. Mounting a mechanically scanned radar on the bottom in a tiny recessed area is kind of unworkable, so a phased array it is. But then, mounting it low still negatively impacts height measurement of inbound targets.

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This has practically no depression on the searcn and tracking radars.

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Ideally, this is the best format.

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Tam

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The position of the RWRs explains a lot to me. They are exactly aligned in a way they would have access forward of the launcher.



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by78

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The things hosted on top of the pole might be EW. So yeah, not only will there be significant signal beam blockage, but also significant interference.

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Even if it's EW, it can be deactivated for a duration of the rotation to avoid interference.

But, as you can see from the below photo, the possible EW antenna is actually placed below H/LJQ-363, out of its line-of-sight. Also judging from the photo below, H/LJQ-363 is placed some distance away from the pole, which doesn't appear to block that many degrees of arc in the rear aspect.

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