Wait 052DM? Not a typo? If so, what's the upgrades over the DL?
055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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For the next iteration of 055, maybe a 055B variant, is there a possibility of exchanging the rear 48x UVLS array for an array of 12x double sized (1.7 m) VLS? So total loadout would be 64x UVLS + 12x big VLS.
The big VLS would be able to handle shortened DF-21/26 sized missiles (1.6 m diameter) and DN-3 ASAT.
Combined with a hypersonic glide warhead it extends the range of ship launched weapons to 3000-4000 km. A moving ship with the capability to launch antiship and ground attack munitions 3000-4000 km is a huge advantage. It means that a 055B can, in conjunction with scout drones, helicopters and satellite assets, hit targets from far beyond the range of attack of a CBG.
So far the 055 is the only platform capable of handling such large missiles without crippling their other capabilities.
The big VLS would be able to handle shortened DF-21/26 sized missiles (1.6 m diameter) and DN-3 ASAT.
Combined with a hypersonic glide warhead it extends the range of ship launched weapons to 3000-4000 km. A moving ship with the capability to launch antiship and ground attack munitions 3000-4000 km is a huge advantage. It means that a 055B can, in conjunction with scout drones, helicopters and satellite assets, hit targets from far beyond the range of attack of a CBG.
So far the 055 is the only platform capable of handling such large missiles without crippling their other capabilities.
The next iteration of 055s are likely to be called 055As.
Current 055s are just 055s, and the upcoming batch of 055s being produced are likely to still be 055s as well.
As for the idea of putting on even larger VLS for IRBMs, it would depend on how much structural rework needs to be done and whether the height of the missiles could be accommodated in the necessary VLS height.
At this stage, there aren't any rumours of such a variant carrying IRBM sized weapons, but I suppose we can't rule out whether they'd consider such an armament setup. But at this stage, 055s seem oriented as multirole combatants with an emphasis on air defense, and whether reducing total VLS count for greater offensive capability is desirable, isn't something we can really judge.
I had assumed that 055A would be an incremental improvement on the 055 and is in work now, so any radical changes like a VLS switch out would not be possible.
I mentioned this because the US is already putting offensive long range hypersonic missiles on Zumwalts and it would be foolish to ignore long range offensive weapons on surface combatants.
I think that it would represent a major relative loss in capability if Zumwalts have 1500+ km strike range weapons while PLAN is stuck with old school cruise missiles.
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Carrying IRBM on type 055 is not a good idea because this bascially turn type 055 into a strategic value target like a SSBN. Which mean this ship will be tracked 24 hours 365 days non-stop even if it is at port. No opponents would want a ship with IRBM to be out of their sights.
And also, if you carry IRBM, the possibility of you being designated a target for a nuclear tipped missile is very high, which will make the type 055 and the flottila that it is escorting vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike.
Submarines are better platform to carry IRBM or ICBM because they can submerge and escape detection and being tracked by their enemy.
And also, if you carry IRBM, the possibility of you being designated a target for a nuclear tipped missile is very high, which will make the type 055 and the flottila that it is escorting vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike.
Submarines are better platform to carry IRBM or ICBM because they can submerge and escape detection and being tracked by their enemy.
The 055A is likely to be a relatively significant improvement involving sensors, and propulsion (IEPS).
The upcoming 055s that are going to be built, will likely not be the 055As we expect.
The 055 will have the YJ-21 Ashbm/HGV that takes advantage of the 0.85m VLS in the 9m long variant (cut down a little due to cold launch of course).
Whether they need a larger proper IRBM sized missile on top of that, is a whole other question, given how much work is needed to develop a bigger VLS and incorporate it in the hull of a 055.
Personally I think the YJ-21 is already quite a formidable weapon in a large VLS.
The 055A is likely to be a relatively significant improvement involving sensors, and propulsion (IEPS).
The upcoming 055s that are going to be built, will likely not be the 055As we expect.
The 055 will have the YJ-21 Ashbm/HGV that takes advantage of the 0.85m VLS in the 9m long variant (cut down a little due to cold launch of course).
Whether they need a larger proper IRBM sized missile on top of that, is a whole other question, given how much work is needed to develop a bigger VLS and incorporate it in the hull of a 055.
Personally I think the YJ-21 is already quite a formidable weapon in a large VLS.
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