055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[chickenhero3830]

The current target is 8, there's a fairly accurate of the status of construction on Wikipedia.
Sometimes I feel like we are working for US military intelligence, because we basically doing the work of scrying Chinese social media and publications for military info for them.

nah the cia would be illegally hacking into Chinese military plans

 

[PikeCowboy]

^the bread and butter scut work is probably closer to what we're doing...

 

[Tyler]

I heard next batch will be 16.

If you think they will have about 10 CVs, then a couple for each CV group and LHD group, for a total of 90 DDG.

 

[Kich]

The current target is 8, there's a fairly accurate of the status of construction on Wikipedia.
Sometimes I feel like we are working for US military intelligence, because we basically doing the work of scrying Chinese social media and publications for military info for them.

You really think the CIA and other western intelligence will be here on this forum?

 

[banjex]

You really think the CIA and other western intelligence will be here on this forum?

OSINT is part of any respectable military establishment's operations. There's a lot of info that can be gleaned here. I remember hearing a quote that something up to 80% of intelligence is open source.

 

[Jono]

I heard next batch will be 16.

please make these 055B: IEP, railguns + other goodies

 

[Tam]

No, not yet any source has confirmed the 9th one is being built. However, many sources confirmed that more 055 (or upgrades) will be built in the next 5 years. I guess let's pay attention to the dry dock at Dalian and Shanghai, where the new batch most likely to be.

If I can get confirmed, not speculated or estimated, pennant numbers, we would have a clearer picture.

If all eight Type 055 goes into Qingdao (Pennant 101 to 108), then SSF and ESF may get a squadron of eight each.

If four goes into Qingdao (101 to 103), another four to Hainan (176 to 179 or 180 to 183), another four may go into ESF. But these won't be the final numbers because they can still add to each of the four that goes to each Fleet.

The problem is that you have only two shipyards certified to produce 055. If you are going to produce 8 to 16 055s, its going to bite into 052DL/052E production. In order to get more warship into the water, smaller shipyards that are certified for frigate production will have to get into the act by building next generation frigates.

 

[Tyler]

please make these 055B: IEP, railguns + other goodies

What other goodies? 6G wifi communication?

 

[Tyler]

If I can get confirmed, not speculated or estimated, pennant numbers, we would have a clearer picture.

If all eight Type 055 goes into Qingdao (Pennant 101 to 108), then SSF and ESF may get a squadron of eight each.

If four goes into Qingdao (101 to 103), another four to Hainan (176 to 179 or 180 to 183), another four may go into ESF. But these won't be the final numbers because they can still add to each of the four that goes to each Fleet.

The problem is that you have only two shipyards certified to produce 055. If you are going to produce 8 to 16 055s, its going to bite into 052DL/052E production. In order to get more warship into the water, smaller shipyards that are certified for frigate production will have to get into the act by building next generation frigates.

Are there any suitable shipyards in the south?

 

[Tam]

Are there any suitable shipyards in the south?

There are many shipyards but how many are certified for military work? And if they do military work, do you notice they are specialized?

Most notable in the south is Guangzhou Huangpu Shipyard, and its known to produce 056, 054A, coast guard cutter, Type 815G, that SURTASS catamaran I forgot the number, and so on. But the shed they use to make these ships won't fit a 052D. The best bet for this shipyard is to do 054B or 057.

Wuchang Shipyard is in Wuhan, and is known to make 056, including those for export to Bangladesh. They make Yuans. They will likely make the next generation SSK.

Bohai Shipyard does the nuclear submarines. So they will be busy with 095 and 096 stuff.

Guandong Shipyard does replenishment vessels. Maybe they will make more 901s.

Xijiang Shipyard did Type 022 before. Now doing commercial work.

There are also many shipyards in the north near Dalian and around Liaoning province. What you know as DSIC comprises of at least three shipyards.

Because you want to build so many stuff, that kind of crimps on how many you can build on specific stuff.

One of the reasons why I like the idea of building frigates is that you can employ smaller shipyards to pound out these ships. Both Dalian, HDZ and JIangnan also have a lot of commercial ship business. You can also guess that the carrier work with Jiangnan and Dalian also has the potential to distract resources from building destroyers. Maybe other state owned shipyards can be retrained and certified for destroyer work, but there are also questions along the supply chain. How many 346X AESA radars can you make? How many gas turbines can you make? A 055 requires four, while a 052D requires only two which is a reason why the 052D is still attractive. Maybe an 076 requires one, and so does the next generation frigate. At this point, its all managerial.