055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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FarkTypeSoldier
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Okay so this is a revision of my 055 proposal, this time with a roughly drawn plan view.
Basically the only major change is that the side mounted ciws stations have been changed so that both ciws will have bow and aft firing arcs, this is done by elevating one ciws station above the other, and moving the lower ciws station outboard on its own sponson akin to the Type 45.
The two "wing-like" thingy which have weapons mounted might add to a greater RCS to this design of the 055. Just my two cents.
This design looks more refined and sleek. This is what I expect from a new generation DDG.
Yep, the sponsons are for ciws, similar to the type 45. It shouldn't add to RCS that much because there are already ciws sitting there anyway. And it should be well worth the small RCS gain for giving all the two side ciws mounts the ability to fire forward and back.
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Anyway, here's the drawing scaled with a few more ships:
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Made a few mods of my own:
On the integrated mast, add ESM, ECM arrays (use imagination lol), and also fixed EO sensors (the purple lines), the kind which the thales i mast has been equipped with.
Basically this entire mast is the thales i mast tilted 45 degrees to one side.
Between smoke stack and VLS I add two satcom domes, cause why not.
next to VLS is an enclosed davit for RHIB, and also the smaller opening is the torpedo launcher.
Modified hangar so it doesn't have that ridiculous slope. More volume.
Biggest "change" is the addition of a modular bay on both sides under the helideck, which can be used to hold various things from UUV/UAV control modules, SOF support module, specialized command module (although the ship itself already has a flag deck for an admiral and his staff)
On the integrated mast, add ESM, ECM arrays (use imagination lol), and also fixed EO sensors (the purple lines), the kind which the thales i mast has been equipped with.
Basically this entire mast is the thales i mast tilted 45 degrees to one side.
Between smoke stack and VLS I add two satcom domes, cause why not.
next to VLS is an enclosed davit for RHIB, and also the smaller opening is the torpedo launcher.
Modified hangar so it doesn't have that ridiculous slope. More volume.
Biggest "change" is the addition of a modular bay on both sides under the helideck, which can be used to hold various things from UUV/UAV control modules, SOF support module, specialized command module (although the ship itself already has a flag deck for an admiral and his staff)
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LOL,I also found some analog round gauges around the officers' wrists!
shen
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Made a few mods of my own:
On the integrated mast, add ESM, ECM arrays (use imagination lol), and also fixed EO sensors (the purple lines), the kind which the thales i mast has been equipped with.
Basically this entire mast is the thales i mast tilted 45 degrees to one side.
Between smoke stack and VLS I add two satcom domes, cause why not.
next to VLS is an enclosed davit for RHIB, and also the smaller opening is the torpedo launcher.
Modified hangar so it doesn't have that ridiculous slope. More volume.
Biggest "change" is the addition of a modular bay on both sides under the helideck, which can be used to hold various things from UUV/UAV control modules, SOF support module, specialized command module (although the ship itself already has a flag deck for an admiral and his staff)
the problem with a rotating X-band radar is it wouldn't work as FC radar if the missile is not actively guided. presumably you want the highest placed radar as the FC radar since it has the longest radar horizon. even if the missile is actively guided, it would still be ideal to have fixed arrays to track the inbound targets continuously and be able to transmit update commands to missiles all the time.
highly placed EO sensors are appealing. would be nice to have passive surveillance of the horizon.
SOF support is questionable. would you want to risk the most powerful combat asset in a littoral environment to support SOF operations?
I imagine 055 wouldn't have any semi active guided missiles at all -- after all, 052C and 052D do not have terminal illuminators.
I think a rotating X band radar has a few select advantages over fixed.
One of them, is that a rotating dual sided array with a fast refresh rate (think SAMPSON but X band) can be more powerful than a four sided X band radar on the basis of each dual side array being potentially larger. That would allow the high placed X band radar to make the most of its height by being sufficiently powerful.
Of course there are a great many things going for fixed X band radar too -- namely, that even a smaller four sided X band AESA can still have more than sufficient range for horizon and surface search missions.
All in all, I'm actually fine with both, I chose rotating because I thought a rotating radome would look cool :3
SOF support was just one of the modules I named off the top of my head. I envision all future PLAN surface combatants (055, next gen frigate, next gen destroyer) will all have room for some module change, with SOF being one of them.
055 probably wouldn't take on an SOF module very often.
kwaigonegin
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Don't forget maintenance and reliability. You always have to take those things into consideration. Less moving parts = less things to break =less maintenance = higher uptime. 
With fixed panels you're still 75% combat capable if one is disabled..with rotating radome one hit and you're blind and if you're blind in naval warfare you be dead.
With fixed panels you're still 75% combat capable if one is disabled..with rotating radome one hit and you're blind and if you're blind in naval warfare you be dead.
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Don't forget maintenance and reliability. You always have to take those things into consideration. Less moving parts = less things to break =less maintenance = higher uptime.
With fixed panels you're still 75% combat capable if one is disabled..with rotating radome one hit and you're blind and if you're blind in naval warfare you be dead.
Yep, all good points -- however, the continued prevalence of rotating array radars probalby means they are fairly reliable despite the mechanical "weak link".
Furthermore, a hit that is able to competently damage a rotating array will probably do similar damage on a fixed array as well.
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