055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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kriss

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New satellite photo of 055s and 052Ds under construction at Dalian, dated Jan 30th. The 055 modules are un-assembled and in the top left. The 052Ds are in the bottom left.

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Seems 4 055 under construction fully confirmed this time.
 

Salty_Waters

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according to that picture my question:

has anyone profound information for the propulsion system. In recent articles I read about electric propulsion system. And if I have a closer look at that cg, I see that the shaft is in a strange angle to the gas turbines. That angle it won't connect to somehow collector gearbox. Next strange thing, the forward set of turbines have the same orientation than the afterward set, and the same symmetric orientation around the centerline of the ship. How should a shaft get there? Starboard tubbiness starboard shaft, and for port the other side, but no collector gearbox. So again my question, does anyone have some solid info about the propulsion system?
 

delft

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With so many large combatants under construction at the same time (ie. 4 Type 052Ds and apparently 4 Type 055s) the PLAN is really showing what it is capable of.
More likely to make good use of the availability of shipbuilding manpower due to the slack in merchant shipbuilding than hurry to build up the fleet. That is possible because shipyards have both civil and military work.
 

Jeff Head

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More likely to make good use of the availability of shipbuilding manpower due to the slack in merchant shipbuilding than hurry to build up the fleet. That is possible because shipyards have both civil and military work.
Yes, of course they are taking up that slack.

But just the same, from a military standpoint, and realizing that building these ships to a military specification is far more difficult than most commercial applications...it is impressive and sends a very strong message.
 

Iron Man

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according to that picture my question:

has anyone profound information for the propulsion system. In recent articles I read about electric propulsion system. And if I have a closer look at that cg, I see that the shaft is in a strange angle to the gas turbines. That angle it won't connect to somehow collector gearbox. Next strange thing, the forward set of turbines have the same orientation than the afterward set, and the same symmetric orientation around the centerline of the ship. How should a shaft get there? Starboard tubbiness starboard shaft, and for port the other side, but no collector gearbox. So again my question, does anyone have some solid info about the propulsion system?
No need to go into so much detailed speculation about another speculation. That CGI is almost certainly wrong about the arrangement of the gas turbines. They will be housed in separate engine rooms separated by engineering spaces to mitigate the risk of damage affecting all 4 engines. It would be a complete surprise if the 055 came with anything other than 4x QC-280s in COGAG configuration. COGLAG is unlikely, full IEP even less likely, at least with the first batch.
 

schenkus

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It would be a complete surprise if the 055 came with anything other than 4x QC-280s in COGAG configuration. COGLAG is unlikely, full IEP even less likely, at least with the first batch.

I agree, especially since they are building a lot of them at once. If they were doing something really new they would build one ship and conduct some serious tests before starting "mass production".

If they really want a new propulsion system and a lot of 055s within a short time, I could image that one of these hulls might be an "experimental" version with COGLAG or IEP and perhaps some other new technology.
 

Salty_Waters

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No need to go into so much detailed speculation about another speculation. That CGI is almost certainly wrong about the arrangement of the gas turbines. They will be housed in separate engine rooms separated by engineering spaces to mitigate the risk of damage affecting all 4 engines. It would be a complete surprise if the 055 came with anything other than 4x QC-280s in COGAG configuration. COGLAG is unlikely, full IEP even less likely, at least with the first batch.

Thank you for your reply. But, it was not a speculation about a speculation. A simple: no I don't have further information about that and you won't find any would have been an appropriate answer, at least more polite than teaching me if an question is legit or not. For me the question is legit enough due to several reasons and I appreciate well thought answers from that great community.

But I take it as your kind of welcome to a newbee... ;)

But let's get to the reasons for me to put that question on the board.
1. Within the last two years there where two CG's depicting the 055 with IEP. I've not seen an other chinese class where CG showed that config. There where illustrations with conventional configuration as well, I had to admit.
2. That concept was already realized by chinese shipbuilding companies in the past. It was done with commercial vessels (Ferries in corporation with ABB) and if I am not wrong, it was realized in a research vessel.
3. Some deeper web research reveals different scientific works and graduation works since 2008 on chinese universities f.e. the Wuhan University dealing with the special issues regarding IEP.
4. In 2013 Wuhan research institute for maritime electric propulsion announced mayor breakthrough in developing IEP, in that context they announced the 054B to be an IEP propelled vessel.

So far to the let's say facts... I know, they are all just hints that something is going on and that china is eager to use that key technology. But I think that these points, keeping in mind all the advantages of that technology especially applied on 055, legitimate my question.
 
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