055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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asif iqbal
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What does Chinese translation say ?
Type 055 confirmed !
Type 055 confirmed !
antiterror13
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Hendrik_2000
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It is based on article by Lyle Goldstein . In National Interest. Lyle Goldstein is one of the better analyst He is well conversant in Putonghua and He based his analysis on article in publicly available Chinese magazine Here is the original article and below is his profile
Lyle J. Goldstein is Associate Professor in the China Maritime Studies Institute (CMSI) at the U.S. Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island.
The module is said to be for Type 55 according to GT in CDF
However, it is not really a possible propulsion innovation that makes this ship especially interesting. Obviously, the sensors (radars) deliver the ship’s core competence. Like the Aegis-equipped destroyers that formed the model for its predecessors, Type 055’s main mission is still certain to be fleet air defense, including for Beijing’s nascent carrier battle groups. The phased array radars on the Type 052D are said to be 15 percent larger and less rounded than 052C, delivering detection ranges not less than four hundred kilometers. Dual band radar technology, the article explains, was pioneered in the United States during the 1990s and originally planned for installation aboard the Ford-class aircraft carrier, as well as the . However, DDG-1000 did not get the system because of cost constraints, according to the Chinese analysis. Visible in the given diagrams of Type 055 are both the S-band radar (under the bridge and facing forward) and also the X-band arrays that are somewhat smaller and located in the middle of the large mast, but this may not constitute a genuine “dual-band” capability as the radars are not combined. Notably, the same drawings show a very prominent “fixed long-range warning radar” (固态远程警戒雷达) mounted above the helicopter hangar near the stern. The article claims that any further deficiencies with respect to radar are related to cost savings, and that China “will not confront a gap in radar capabilities or function.”
As to weaponry, the Type 055’s large cruiser dimensions are said to allow for ninety-six VLS launchers, up from sixty-four on the 052D destroyer now in production. Its large size allows not only for more weapons, but also for larger-dimension missiles, as this analysis states explicitly that a drawback of the current 052D VLS is that it cannot accommodate missiles longer than seven meters. In addition to the “long-range land attack cruise missile” and “missile interceptor” mentioned at the outset of this article, the other weapons that will likely be loaded into these VLS tubes, include a “new-type medium-range air defense missile” (新型中程舰空导弹), a “new-type medium-range antisubmarine missile” (新型中程反潜导弹), a “new-type long-range air defense missile” (新型远程舰空导弹) and “a new-type supersonic long-range antiship missile” (新型超音速远程反舰导弹). Interestingly, among the mission areas mentioned for Type 055 beyond air defense is not only missile defense, but also “antisatellite” (反卫星) operations. For close-in air defense, the ship is said to be upgraded with a new close-in weapons system (CIWS) that fires 9,600 rounds per minute—twice the rate of the former Chinese CIWS. Another interesting feature of the large design, of course, is the relatively expansive helicopter hangar. However, the helicopters illustrated in the design drawings feature the Ka-28 (an import from Russia) as well as the new Z-20 (a Chinese copy of the SH-60 now in development that I have written about in ), but not the larger Z-18AF that some had expected to see. However, one weapon that the Chinese analysis cautions will all but certainly not appear on Type 055 is an “electromagnetic gun” (电磁炮).
For readers following the progress of the U.S. Navy’s new cruiser DDG-1000, this last point may be read as an intentional dig by the Chinese side. Indeed, the DDG-1000 is notable for its new gun systems and has been described as optimized for supporting Marines fighting ashore with rapid, long-range gunfire. Pitting the projected Type 055 design against DDG-1000 may well be like comparing apples and oranges, to be sure, but as my colleague James Holmes has : “The DDG-1000 will find itself sorely outranged by the missile-armed submarines, warplanes and surface combatants that comprise the core of naval fighting forces around the Eurasian perimeter. Chinese or Russian forces can blast away from beyond the reach of American guns or missiles.” Indeed, DDG-1000, together with the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS), currently lacks for suitable antiship cruise missile (ASCM) armament. Perhaps this explains why the USN is only building three of the DDG-1000. Chinese naval planners do not consider ASCMs as an afterthought in surface fleet development.
antiterror13
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I believe the total no of VLS on Type 055 would be 112 to 128, not 96
That site makes far too many BS claims for it to be taken seriously. It sometimes reposts accurate news, but most of the stuff it pushes out makes no sense.
As for the national interest article by mr goldstein, I think he's making a few too many assumptions that the commentary and drawing in shipborne weapons will be accurate.
steve_rolfe
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From what i've read the construction of the 055 started March 2016. I presumed that meant the construction of the joining of the modules, as the modules themselves would of started a year ago, as we witnessed a banner stating at the time that the first steel was being cut for the 055.
MwRYum
Major
It's worth to note that over in China that there's always a group of people who's "too earnest" (lack of better term for it) to prove that the lead boat of the 055 class is already under actual construction. Personally I'd wait until more of the hull being put together to resemble the test rig then to speak for certain.
AssassinsMace
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They're just trying to scare Americans into okaying Congress to spend more money on the military. Americans like being number one in literally everything and that's one way to make people feel insecure and will okay Congress to do it.
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